Sidney Crosby is (MOD EDIT: not) the only Rocket Richard and Stanley Cup winner in the same season ( Rocket Richard been given 1999 -> )

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This happened in 2017 - Crosby scored 44 goals, won the Rocket and Pittsburgh won the Stanley Cup
22 x Rocket Richards, 1 x Stanley Cup

Prior to Crosby, last goal scoring leader, whom also won the cup was, Wayne Gretzky (1987)
34 last goal scoring leaders, 2 x Stanley Cups = 5% chance for the Cup

Gretzky in 1985, 1984 and Bossy in 1981, 1979

76 - 79 : it was done each season, Leach, Shutt, Lafleur, Bossy
70 - 76 : only once, Esposito 1972
60 - 69 : -
50 - 59 : Howe in 1952, Beliveu in 1956, 1958, 1959
40 - 49 : only once, Hextall in 1940
30 - 39 : Conacher in 1932, 1939, Cook in 1933, Aurie in 1937,
17 - 29 : Lalonde 1919, Dye in 1922, Stewart in 1926

All together, 23 times in 106 years = about 20% chance for the Cup
 

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The same thing happens in the NBA. Only 3 scoring champions has only won the title in the same season, Jordan (x6), Shaq (x1) and Kareem-Abdul Jabbar (1x). Only 3 assist champs have won the title in the same season, Jerry West (1x), Magic Johnson (1x) and Lebron James (1x).
 

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The surprising affair his Maurice Richard achieving to win 8 cups but none the 5 times he leads the league in goals...

24 years, 2 times, 1/12 in a 30 to 32 teams league

8 times in less than 80 years in the NBA if the above is correct, but you would expect the odds to be higher.

There a couple of case in that list of goal scorerw winger being really high draft pick doing it early on bad team that had those high draft pick, Kovalchuk, Nash, early Capitals, Stamkos is a bit of stanger case Tampa had a terrible year but were packed in high end talent.
 

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Crosby fans as usual are living in alternative reality.
What is real? 44 goals - worst resuslt since DPE 2004 with 41 from 3 guys. Matthews was rookie and had 13 goal drought during season. Kucherov missed 8 games, a little bit more than crosby and he never was elite goalscorer. Ovechkin has worst year ever etc.
Just big kiss of fortune. Jagr for example never had so much luck as he was much better goalscorer in general.
Ovechkin`s next season was much more impressive. Ressurected from 33G 69pts to 49/87 (best pts number since 2010). Beated hot youngster Laine in regular season, in post season Capitals leaded by Ovechkin beated all "past demons", includine penguins, and captured title.
 

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Crosby fans as usual are living in alternative reality.
What is real? 44 goals - worst resuslt since DPE 2004 with 41 from 3 guys. Matthews was rookie and had 13 goal drought during season. Kucherov missed 8 games, a little bit more than crosby and he never was elite goalscorer. Ovechkin has worst year ever etc.
Just big kiss of fortune. Jagr for example never had so much luck as he was much better goalscorer in general.
Ovechkin`s next season was much more impressive. Ressurected from 33G 69pts to 49/87 (best pts number since 2010). Beated hot youngster Laine in regular season, in post season Capitals leaded by Ovechkin beated all "past demons", includine penguins, and captured title.
I mean he did miss 7 games. His pace was for 48 which is pretty much in line with what Ovechkin was winning with every year. If he doesn't miss those game he probably tries to push for 50.
 
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Crosby fans as usual are living in alternative reality.
What is real? 44 goals - worst resuslt since DPE 2004 with 41 from 3 guys. Matthews was rookie and had 13 goal drought during season. Kucherov missed 8 games, a little bit more than crosby and he never was elite goalscorer. Ovechkin has worst year ever etc.
Just big kiss of fortune. Jagr for example never had so much luck as he was much better goalscorer in general.
Ovechkin`s next season was much more impressive. Ressurected from 33G 69pts to 49/87 (best pts number since 2010). Beated hot youngster Laine in regular season, in post season Capitals leaded by Ovechkin beated all "past demons", includine penguins, and captured title.
This has nothing to do with the thread - somehow. It's just a lot of explaining away why other players didn't beat him, but when anyone says "well, Crosby missed some games and therefore..." it gets interrupted with some version of "what is real?"

Doesn't seem up to code...
 
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Ovechkin in 2018
Whenever people try to use the "Ovi didn't win a cup until he sacrificed his goalscoring and focused on two way play" narrative, I always make sure to bring this up. People seem to confuse 2018 with 2017 where he only scored 33 and ended up losing in the Semis
 

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Crosby fans as usual are living in alternative reality.
What is real? 44 goals - worst resuslt since DPE 2004 with 41 from 3 guys. Matthews was rookie and had 13 goal drought during season. Kucherov missed 8 games, a little bit more than crosby and he never was elite goalscorer. Ovechkin has worst year ever etc.
Just big kiss of fortune. Jagr for example never had so much luck as he was much better goalscorer in general.
Ovechkin`s next season was much more impressive. Ressurected from 33G 69pts to 49/87 (best pts number since 2010). Beated hot youngster Laine in regular season, in post season Capitals leaded by Ovechkin beated all "past demons", includine penguins, and captured title.
44 goals in 75 games in a season where only one player scored 100. 48 goals per 82. Easily 55+ in todays circus scoring league
 
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I do want to point out that Bossy did not win the Cup in 1979. But he did in 1981 when he led the NHL in goals as well. Also, you are missing Esposito in 1970.

Overall, yeah this is a surprisingly weird stat. The likes of Peter Bondra led the NHL in goals twice and Charlie Simmer did it once too. And other names like Nash, Iggy did it twice, Kovalchuk, Bure and even Blaine Stoughton. You would think that there would be more than two times since Gretzky did this in 1987 that it happened. And even then, it took 30 years before Sid did it and then Ovie the following year. I wonder what the reasoning is behind it?

Even the original 6 is lacking more than I think. Never for Richard. I am well versed in the years Richard won the Cup, and I know the years he led the NHL in goals, but if you gave me one second to answer it, I'd have told you that for sure Rocket led the NHL in goals the same season he won a Cup. But he didn't. Howe either. Mario either. Bobby Hull, 7 times, and not in 1961.
 
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Whenever people try to use the "Ovi didn't win a cup until he sacrificed his goalscoring and focused on two way play" narrative, I always make sure to bring this up. People seem to confuse 2018 with 2017 where he only scored 33 and ended up losing in the Semis

He was clearly more engaged than usual in his own zone during that run so not sure what your point is.
 

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He was clearly more engaged than usual in his own zone during that run so not sure what your point is.
Maybe you could try reading the "sacrificed his goal scoring and focused on two way play" part and you'd have an easier time putting two and two together. There wasn't a single word in that sentence above a 5th-grade reading level.
 

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