Should Bob Murray be fired?

[Ducks in a row]

He had made a lot of changes for this season and things have gone horrible. He has yet to do anything with this team being terrible.

What do you think?

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[Tecumseh]

I vote yea.

But if it's going to be happen, it'll happen after this year.

 

[la patineuse]

He had made a lot of changes for this season and things have gone horrible. He has yet to do anything. What do you think?

He's slowly depleted the scoring capabilities of this team and for three years in a row has made wholesale changes to the team instead of making adjustments or adding the right players. He has never really addressed areas where the Ducks were deficient. But he had success with all those changes except for this year and has won GM of the year. So I doubt he will get fired.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

He not making a move, especially when it's obvious that this team's still building chemistry, isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot of the worst moves are done out of panic. Things have been grim, but they've been so ridiculously grim that you know it can't last. Overreacting can be a turning point for a GM in a very bad way.

 

[ginner classic]

I am not a Ducks fan but that is a stupid idea. Great top end prospects...tons of cap space....just some pieces that don't fit. Waive Stewart, shuffle the parts in the 2nd and 3rd lines....and pick up a left winger ffs!

 

[KaseMeOutside]

no but he needs to be held accountable for some of his bad decisions. this gm refused to give beauchemin a 3 year deal, and then and went on to give up a 2nd round pick, to have bieksa for 3 years.

he gave palmieri away for nothing, and if given the choice i'd much rather have beleskey in hagelins salary slot, hagelin is just too soft for the west.

his biggest failure as GM though is the organization being unable to develop offensive forwards, i know a common rebuttal is "we haven't picked many forwards very high" well it hasn't stopped detroit from finding guys all the time

the team is soft, what they need are some dirty goals but there are too many small/soft players on the roster

 

[la patineuse]

I am not a Ducks fan but that is a stupid idea. Great top end prospects...tons of cap space....just some pieces that don't fit. Waive Stewart, shuffle the parts in the 2nd and 3rd lines....and pick up a left winger ffs!

I'm not sure the Ducks still have tons of cap space, especially with the Kesler and Bieksa deals. And what good is cap space anyway and great top-end prospects if the GM doesn't start leveraging them at some point?

 

[salsa man]

I think so. He's too reactionary, and doesn't have an actual plan.

 

[Ducks in a row]

He not making a move, especially when it's obvious that this team's still building chemistry, isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot of the worst moves are done out of panic. Things have been grim, but they've been so ridiculously grim that you know it can't last. Overreacting can be a turning point for a GM in a very bad way.

He has made no moves at all not even firing BB yet. Something needs to be done something something something. Can't be doing nothing like this.

Regardless I don't think the Ducks will win a Cup with him as the GM

 

[Static]

It depends. Is madden loyal to him? McNabb? Will a new GM remove all of our secondary guys? Is there somebody better out there?

I will wait to feel one way or another until I see his reaction to this season.

 

[93Ducks]

No. He's a good GM whose team is underperforming. Some of his offseason moves were iffy and still are though.

I'd rather have Beleskey and Beauchemin than Hagelin and Bieksa right now and I did in July. Still time to right the ship though, I guess..

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

He has made no moves at all not even firing BB yet. Something needs to be done something something something. Can't be doing nothing like this.

Regardless I don't think the Ducks will win a Cup with him as the GM

Which, again, is not necessarily a bad thing. Slumps happen, this one just happened to occur to start a season. It's also quite bad even for February, but again, the worst moves are done out of panic. That's not even just exclusive to an NHL GM, that's applicable to anything.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I think Bob has earned a longer chain that. I'm not sure he would make it through a non playoff year without getting fired, but it would be pretty deep into the year before we would see that happen IMO.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Which, again, is not necessarily a bad thing. Slumps happen, this one just happened to occur to start a season. It's also quite bad even for February, but again, the worst moves are done out of panic. That's not even just exclusive to an NHL GM, that's applicable to anything.

This is a historic slump I am sorry but a slump like this calls for action of some kind.

 

[salsa man]

It depends. Is madden loyal to him? McNabb? Will a new GM remove all of our secondary guys? Is there somebody better out there?

I will wait to feel one way or another until I see his reaction to this season.

McNabb's been here for every GM this franchise has ever had. I doubt Murray leaving would have any affect on him.

 

[Nosedive]

There is no doubt he (along with the rest of the staff) do a great job of drafting and managing the budget. Is there a way to strip him of the GM position, but have him remain as part of the front office?

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

I think Bob has earned a longer chain that. I'm not sure he would make it through a non playoff year without getting fired, but it would be pretty deep into the year before we would see that happen IMO.

Keep in mind, this organization has fired one GM in their entire history (and demoted another). Pretty impressive, but goes to show that guys get a lot of rope on Anaheim.

Another solution might be promoting Bob and rehiring Brian Burke. If this is the window, a risk taker might be what's needed.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

There is no doubt he (along with the rest of the staff) do a great job of drafting and managing the budget. Is there a way to strip him of the GM position, but have him remain as part of the front office?

Yes. He could be promoted to President of Hockey Operations, like the Oilers did with KLowe, where IMO he'd be a better fit. Not sure the Samuelli's would want to pay another high FO salary, though.

 

[salsa man]

Keep in mind, this organization has fired one GM in their entire history (and demoted another). Pretty impressive, but goes to show that guys get a lot of rope on Anaheim.

Another solution might be promoting Bob and rehiring Brian Burke. If this is the window, a risk taker might be what's needed.

Why would Burke leave Calgary?

 

[Chili]

I don't think the problem is management or coaching at this point (although Boudreau still may get the boot).

They played hard tonight (against a good team), they just didn't score.

Scoring slumps happen to all players (even Ovechkin has had droughts). When it's a team slump,guys are squeezing the sticks. Confidence is low.

They need a convincing win to get some confidence back and only the players can provide that. Their schedule is brutal right now which certainly doesn't help.

 

[Tecumseh]

If we blow our Cup window, people will talk about Bob Murray like they talk about Mike Gillis now. His tendency to give out NTCs/NMCs is actually very Gillis like.

 

[Static]

If we blow our Cup window, people will talk about Bob Murray like they talk about Mike Gillis now. His tendency to give out NTCs/NMCs is actually very Gillis like.

How many has he given? Three? To three players we will never trade?

 

[Getzmonster]

How many has he given? Three? To three players we will never trade?

Seriously, if Murray was more liberal with NTC's, Beleskey would likely still be a Duck. (We won't talk about Bieksa's until next season, when it really hurts)

 

[Exit Dose]

I don't think the problem is management or coaching at this point (although Boudreau still may get the boot).

They played hard tonight (against a good team), they just didn't score.

Scoring slumps happen to all players (even Ovechkin has had droughts). When it's a team slump,guys are squeezing the sticks. Confidence is low.

They need a convincing win to get some confidence back and only the players can provide that. Their schedule is brutal right now which certainly doesn't help.

If the big guns were firing we'd be in a better spot, sure, but we'd still be coming up short as a contender. That is on management.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

Why would Burke leave Calgary?

I thought I remembered him saying he wanted to be a GM rather than a President, but I just found an article saying his current job is his last in hockey. So there you go.

If any change were to be made, though, that's the one I'd want. Murray up the ladder, a bolder guy making the actual moves.