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Canadiens1958
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Herb Carnagie
Herb Carnagie had a try-out with the New York Rangers in the late 1940's. See link:
http://www.blackhistorysociety.ca/Herb Carnegie.htm
Sadly he was offered significantly less than he was making in Sherbrooke to play in their farm system.
The NY Rangers were notoriously cheap during the Patrick era. This is just another example. Sadly they get a free pass from hockey historians.
Herb Carnagie had a try-out with the New York Rangers in the late 1940's. See link:
http://www.blackhistorysociety.ca/Herb Carnegie.htm
Sadly he was offered significantly less than he was making in Sherbrooke to play in their farm system.
The NY Rangers were notoriously cheap during the Patrick era. This is just another example. Sadly they get a free pass from hockey historians.
Axxellien
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Black Aces Line:
Yes, the fortunes of Sports teams seem tied to the level & depth of financial investment & commitement to such....For Decades after the fact, Local Hockey enthusiasts would remember with awe the exploits of the Black Aces Line...
Yes, the fortunes of Sports teams seem tied to the level & depth of financial investment & commitement to such....For Decades after the fact, Local Hockey enthusiasts would remember with awe the exploits of the Black Aces Line...
Willie O'Ree
Speaking of black hockey players, what about Willie O'Ree? I can only imagine the response in Boston - or wherever he played - when O'Ree first skated out onto the ice. "He's an Irishman?"
Speaking of black hockey players, what about Willie O'Ree? I can only imagine the response in Boston - or wherever he played - when O'Ree first skated out onto the ice. "He's an Irishman?"
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Willie O'ree:
Willie O'ree was greeted with polite respect by His Bruins teamates & the Boston Gardens crowd...His arrival was not hailed with great fanfare or noise..He was another good young prospect...Boston treated Willie O'Ree very well.
Willie O'ree was greeted with polite respect by His Bruins teamates & the Boston Gardens crowd...His arrival was not hailed with great fanfare or noise..He was another good young prospect...Boston treated Willie O'Ree very well.
Another Jackie Robinson
Maybe the Brooklyn Dodgers should have done the same thing with Jackie Robinson.
Maybe the Brooklyn Dodgers should have done the same thing with Jackie Robinson.
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Willie O'Ree and Pumpsie Green
The Bruins with Willie O'Ree integrated before the Red Sox with Pumpsie Green in 1959.
The Bruins with Willie O'Ree integrated before the Red Sox with Pumpsie Green in 1959.
O'Ree's first NHL game was at the Forum. There was no fuss made at all beforehand in the media or when he hit the ice for warm-up. He was a familiar face in that building since he visited regularly with the Aces. A few folks may have commented something along the lines of "the coloured guy is up with the Bruins", he told me, but nobody got worked up, one way or the other.
Mind you, the crowds around Quebec had seen black players since the mid-40s with the Carnegies and Macintyre playing in Shawinigan and Sherbrooke and Herb later playing with the Aces, where both O'Ree and Stan Maxwell suited up a few years later.
Jean Beliveau, who wrote the introduction to Herb Canegie's autobiography, A Fly in a Pail of Milk, says he had the necessities to make a go of it in the NHL and Red Storey claimed the line as a whole could have made "any team, any time".
A lot of folks give the Rangers grief for lowballing Carnegie but perhaps a more pertinent question is why the Habs never gave any of the members of the Coloured Line a tryout. There's no way Gorman and Selke could claim not to be aware of them. Sherbrooke and the Habs played a number of preseason exhibition games in the 40s with Montreal not always coming out on top in some pretty rough matches.
Manny Macintyre was O'Ree's idol when he was a kid in Fredericton. He spoke as much about Macintyre's skill as a ballplayer as he did about his hockey ability.
Have also had the pleasure of meeting both Herb Carnegie and Manny Macintyre and found them to be wonderful gentlemen and very generous with their time and memories, as was Mr O'Ree.
Mind you, the crowds around Quebec had seen black players since the mid-40s with the Carnegies and Macintyre playing in Shawinigan and Sherbrooke and Herb later playing with the Aces, where both O'Ree and Stan Maxwell suited up a few years later.
Jean Beliveau, who wrote the introduction to Herb Canegie's autobiography, A Fly in a Pail of Milk, says he had the necessities to make a go of it in the NHL and Red Storey claimed the line as a whole could have made "any team, any time".
A lot of folks give the Rangers grief for lowballing Carnegie but perhaps a more pertinent question is why the Habs never gave any of the members of the Coloured Line a tryout. There's no way Gorman and Selke could claim not to be aware of them. Sherbrooke and the Habs played a number of preseason exhibition games in the 40s with Montreal not always coming out on top in some pretty rough matches.
Manny Macintyre was O'Ree's idol when he was a kid in Fredericton. He spoke as much about Macintyre's skill as a ballplayer as he did about his hockey ability.
Have also had the pleasure of meeting both Herb Carnegie and Manny Macintyre and found them to be wonderful gentlemen and very generous with their time and memories, as was Mr O'Ree.
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