Seth Lake
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Carry on, but let's try to keep this to one big thread to save everyone time and keep the discussions on-track.
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Thanks for making this, now i can follow everything. So after Weber saying that he wants to be playing with Suter and Rinne for a long time do you think Poile will actually try to sign them during the season or before? I know he said he will talk to them when they get back in town but the last time I remember an extension during the season was Goc.
If only Poile could create that kind of vision for our top players.... let's hope our top player is creating that kind of vision for the rest of us.
Any vision that has Parise included with all of the Big Three is a bit flawed. New Jersey wants to win too, y'know.Shea Weber- is he Lebron James or is he Mark Messier?
Lebron wanted out because he wanted to play for a winner.
Mess assumed he could make any team he played for a winner.
Is Weber going to leave if he can't win or is he going to force Poile and the owners to pony up and do what it takes?
Yesterday, I was thinking Lebron. Today, I'm thinking he may well go down as the greatest hockey leader of all times by literally forcing a reluctant GM and reluctant ownership group to give him the troops to storm the gates of hell.
I think this will force the signing of Weber, Suter, Rinne and a $6.5M+ forward by this time next year. I think Parise (8-9.5), Radulov (5, however structured), Weber (8), Suter (6.5-7.5) and Rinne (5-5.5) could make up around $35M of our $60M payroll and we will have to backfill with a few cheap players in place of SK and perhaps Tootoo, CalO, Lindback or even Wilson.
If only Poile could create that kind of vision for our top players.... let's hope our top player is creating that kind of vision for the rest of us.
I think he'd at the very least be on the hot seat.In a brazen attempt to derail the consolidated Weber thread, if Poile cannot sign Weber long-term and, as a result, Suter/Rinne leave for pennies on the dollar either via deadline deals or straight to UFA, does Poile get fired?
I think he'd at the very least be on the hot seat.
Honestly, I don't dread that possible outcome as much as everyone else here... but that's probably because I still have regular torturous daydreams of Ryan Suter in union blue, and that's probably the only (contrived, unlikely, ludicrous) scenario in which it could happen.
In a brazen attempt to derail the consolidated Weber thread, if Poile cannot sign Weber long-term and, as a result, Suter/Rinne leave for pennies on the dollar either via deadline deals or straight to UFA, does Poile get fired?
Yes, it'd be very likely because ownership wants to contend and if Poile were to take actions or inaction(s) that lead to the team going from being at the start of a window of opportunity to nailing the window shut and boarding it over to undergo another rebuild the owners would not be pleased at all...
For the record, we're pretty certain Howson plans to extend Umberger before the summer's out. But now I'm arguably being nitpicky.If I'm the GM, I approach Rinne first. Goalies that level of elite are hard to find, although Nashville seems to breed them... I don't know if Lindback is ready to step into that #1 role yet.
I don't realy blame Poile for not going after a UFA forward this offseason.... The pickins were kinda slim. Offseason 2012 sees Semin, Parise, Penner, Boyes, Umberger, Stoll, grabovski and Andrei Kostitsyn all become UFAs... Grab one of those guys (Like Penner, Boyes or Kostitsyn), resign Suter and Rinne, then show Weber the payday.
So, if you're the GM, do you approach Suter or Rinne first and why?
So, if you're the GM, do you approach Suter or Rinne first and why?
So, if you're the GM, do you approach Suter or Rinne first and why?
So, if you're the GM, do you approach Suter or Rinne first and why?
Rinne, our motto has been build from the net out, a Vezina candidate is a perfect building block.
Honestly, I'm not THAT worried about all of this, if we can retain atleast 2/3 of the "big three" and get a great return on the one player that leaves I'll be content.
Any vision that has Parise included with all of the Big Three is a bit flawed. New Jersey wants to win too, y'know.
If I'm the GM, I approach Rinne first. Goalies that level of elite are hard to find, although Nashville seems to breed them... I don't know if Lindback is ready to step into that #1 role yet.
And the most likely one of those will be New Jersey.Not flawed at all. Just not easy. Only a select few teams will have the ability/need/desire to sign him at 8+. I just want us to be there trying with Rinne/Weber/Suter/Rads as teammates. Like the Richards saga this year, several losers that tried... we didn't try.