Speculation: Sharks 2015-2016 Roster Talk: Rumors, Roster, Proposals. Part II

[Led Zappa]

Continue the hand wringing

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[Gecklund]

Gormley was just waived. Do we pick him up to provide D depth?

 

[Coy]

Gormley isn't NHL caliber. Or I guess what I should say is he isn't any better than what we have. Also another question is Mirco Mueller the worst pick in the past 5 years?

 

[Evil Janney]

Gormley isn't NHL caliber. Or I guess what I should say is he isn't any better than what we have. Also another question is Mirco Mueller the worst pick in the past 5 years?

I'd venture to say he's the worst in the last 10 years...

 

[Juxtaposer]

Gormley isn't NHL caliber. Or I guess what I should say is he isn't any better than what we have. Also another question is Mirco Mueller the worst pick in the past 5 years?

Probably. I watched the Cuda game last night and it was depressing as hell to see a 20 year old Mueller be so much worse than an 18 year old late 2nd round pick in Oliver Kylington. And then go down the road and see Shea Theodore in Anaheim.

 

[hockeey]

Probably been said earlier but I really hope DW is in on drouin. No one on our team who plays like him and I think this could end up similar to the seguin trade to Dallas. Id easily give up hertl/Tierney + since we have so much center depth

 

[Levie]

Gormley isn't NHL caliber. Or I guess what I should say is he isn't any better than what we have. Also another question is Mirco Mueller the worst pick in the past 5 years?

He's one of our worst when you consider who was still on the board and what we gave up (WHAT?!) to get him. I was hoping that since his face he resembled Vlasic he would pan out. I'm sure that's what the Sharks were thinking as well.

 

[hockeey]

He's one of our worst when you consider who was still on the board and what we gave up (WHAT?!) to get him. I was hoping that since his face he resembled Vlasic he would pan out. I'm sure that's what the Sharks were thinking as well.

That 2013 draft was horrible. I try to give the sharks scouting department some slack until all the prospects have planned out but jeez its miserable to look at 2013. I think it's becoming apparent that we need either new scouts or different drafting strategies.

 

[magic school bus]

Gormley isn't NHL caliber. Or I guess what I should say is he isn't any better than what we have. Also another question is Mirco Mueller the worst pick in the past 5 years?

No way is he worse than Tennyson, Mueller or Demelo.

 

[Levie]

If Anaheim blows it up I would like the Sharks to get in contact with some of their scouts. They seem pretty good at picking offensive dmen.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Mueller hasn't shown nearly enough, but it's still WAY too early to write him off.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Players tend to show at least some flashes of skill by his age. Mueller has shown none and is being outperformed in the AHL by 18 year olds (I'm basing this off what Jux said, I havent watched the Barracuda), it's fair to write him off. Coulda had Rychel, Mantha, Burakovsky, HunShin, Theodore...

 

[stator]

Probably been said earlier but I really hope DW is in on drouin. No one on our team who plays like him and I think this could end up similar to the seguin trade to Dallas. Id easily give up hertl/Tierney + since we have so much center depth

We have depth if bodies are counted, not so if skill is counted. So far, I only see two top 6 centers outside of Thornton. Those are Couture, and Hertl which I feel is the better of the two for center duties.

Even Zubrus is listed as a center in today's projected lineup. Things are not good as that's reaching the bottom of the barrel.

Right now, DW's off-season acquisitions are slumping.... Martin Jones, Paul Martin, and Joel Ward. When that happens, we see the same suckage of a Sharks team we saw last year. Depth is an issue right now.

 

[Levie]

Players tend to show at least some flashes of skill by his age. Mueller has shown none and is being outperformed in the AHL by 18 year olds (I'm basing this off what Jux said, I havent watched the Barracuda), it's fair to write him off. Coulda had Rychel, Mantha, Burakovsky, HunShin, Theodore...

The saddest part is those picks you listed weren't even "hindsight is 20/20" picks. For the most part they were all projected higher than Mueller. At least Kopi vs Seto was more of a hindsight pick where Seto just didn't put it together and was much safer.

Mueller wasn't safe, had players who were projected higher than him that are looking to pan out, and we gave up a draft pick to get him. I would not have faulted DW for picking up Mueller if he really liked what he saw and moved down because he knew Mueller could be got later, but he's a bad pick for where the sharks originally were and where they moved up to get him.

 

[Coy]

To be honest this season feels comparably awful to the LA comeback. The future seems awfully dim and there is no excitement for this season since we are a below average team. Please just sell at the deadline it doesn't matter if we have our first or not, it is already gone. I'm just scared DW will try to go all in to save his skin and we just end up destroying our future even more.

 

[hockeyball]

To be honest this season feels comparably awful to the LA comeback. The future seems awfully dim and there is no excitement for this season since we are a below average team. Please just sell at the deadline it doesn't matter if we have our first or not, it is already gone. I'm just scared DW will try to go all in to save his skin and we just end up destroying our future even more.

This is exactly how I feel. It also feels a lot worse because last season I at least had some hope the org had seen the light of day and would do the right thing (rebuild, properly), now it's clear they don't get it and I'm just hoping to get rid of the current establishment before they can continue to do lasting damage.

 

[magic school bus]

Players tend to show at least some flashes of skill by his age. Mueller has shown none and is being outperformed in the AHL by 18 year olds (I'm basing this off what Jux said, I havent watched the Barracuda), it's fair to write him off. Coulda had Rychel, Mantha, Burakovsky, HunShin, Theodore...

Remember when we were getting ripped for saying Bergman looked better than him at the prospects game? Not so farfetched now...

 

[Lebanezer]

I don't want to write Mueller off either, but the situation smells of Wishart and Petrecki. I was at a Barracuda game recently, and Mueller was quite bad. His first period was decent, after that he nosedived.

 

[Lebanezer]

To be honest this season feels comparably awful to the LA comeback. The future seems awfully dim and there is no excitement for this season since we are a below average team. Please just sell at the deadline it doesn't matter if we have our first or not, it is already gone. I'm just scared DW will try to go all in to save his skin and we just end up destroying our future even more.

The night is always darkest before the dawn!

I try to remind myself of all the prospects possibly joining the Barracuda next season. Rod, Chartier, O'Regan, Sadowy, Labanc etc. Maybe one of them will be a savior.

 

[T0uGh C0oki3]

Shoulda...........Coulda............Woulda.................


Shinkaruk and Bura

 

[Juxtaposer]

If Mueller had shown any flashes of skill, anything that would show he had NHL-talent beyond his size and skating, I'd say it's too early to write him off. But since he hasn't, I feel comfortable proclaiming him a bust. I hope DW trades him for something semi-valuable before the rest of the league figures out.

 

[Grave]

If Mueller had shown any flashes of skill, anything that would show he had NHL-talent beyond his size and skating, I'd say it's too early to write him off. But since he hasn't, I feel comfortable proclaiming him a bust. I hope DW trades him for something semi-valuable before the rest of the league figures out.

Too bad we missed out on Zadorov by two picks.

 

[hohosaregood]

Man rushing Mueller to the NHL probably messed him up real good.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Man rushing Mueller to the NHL probably messed him up real good.

Nahh -- that's the great thing about sharks first round picks on D; they fail no matter what you do!

 

[DonskoiDonscored]

Also another question is Mirco Mueller the worst pick in the past 5 years?

Max Gaede