Samsonov's Replacement?

[Brown Dog]

With all the uncertainty surrounding the team currently, one thing seems to be sure: we won't see Ilya Samsonov in a Leafs uniform again.

And while Joseph Woll showed a lot of promise, his inability to stay healthy means we probably can't count on him as anything more than 1B for now.

So what's the game plan for this vital position?

Prioritize the acquisition of a franchise #1?

Another 1-year stop gap and re-evaluate readiness of Woll/Hildeby after this year?

Stay cheap and roll the dice on Woll as 1A and add a couple veteran backups?

Any specific targets make sense?

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[fahad203]

I can think of a goalie I want badly that's out in the market.
We have to hope Hidelby turns out to be something and Woll can stay healthy

 

[ACC1224]

I think they roll Woll with a high end backup, with Hildeby in the wings

 

[MarMarSab3]

Laurent Broissot is the guy for me or go yo Vegas for Adin Hill

 

[ACC1224]

Laurent Broissot is the guy for me or go yo Vegas for Adin Hill

Like this “Yo Vegas, send us Adin Hill”?

 

[Torontonian]

Wild willing to listen on Gustavsson, Rossi — The Fourth Period

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I would go after Gustavsson. 25 years old, solid goaltender, signed for 3 years at 3.5m had a good year last year on Minny, this year wasn't as good but that's also not a good team. Could be a good young duo with Woll and him.

Then I would bring back Jones or Murray as the 3rd string goalie.

 

[jiggy35]

I think they roll Woll with a high end backup, with Hildeby in the wings

Stolarz or Brossoit at 2yrs 2-3m but still show confidence in Woll and call him your 1A. Keep Jones as #3 and have Hidelby get a ton of starts in the AHL.

If the duo doesn’t work go after the likes of Saros, Hill off-season after, or maybe Hidelby shows he’s ready.

 

[Warden of the North]

I think they roll Woll with a high end backup, with Hildeby in the wings

I think so too.

Woll has earned it. What's the point of developing him if not to test him when it matters.

 

[MarMarSab3]

Like this “Yo Vegas, send us Adin Hill”?

Haha that was good, meant to say "to"

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think they roll Woll with a high end backup, with Hildeby in the wings

Until Woll proves he can stay healthy he IS the high end backup.

He needs to steal the job from somebody else.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I think so too.

Woll has earned it. What's the point of developing him if not to test him when it matters.

How has Woll earned anything? He missed 3 months of this season because he got hurt on a muffin of a shot.

And then took himself out of game 7 because he tried to make a save in game 6 that he literally did not need to make, and he didn't even make it.

I fail to see how he's earned anything at this point when he spent more time injured than he did playing this year.

 

[ACC1224]

Until Woll proves he can stay healthy he IS the high end backup.

He needs to steal the job from somebody else.

No need to steal. No one has the job currently.

 

[TMLAM34]

Wild willing to listen on Gustavsson, Rossi — The Fourth Period

The Minnesota Wild are willing to listen to trade calls on some of their young stars.

www.thefourthperiod.com

I would go after Gustavsson. 25 years old, solid goaltender, signed for 3 years at 3.5m had a good year last year on Minny, this year wasn't as good but that's also not a good team. Could be a good young duo with Woll and him.

Then I would bring back Jones or Murray as the 3rd string goalie.

I’d love to acquire both Gustavsson and Rossi. Not sure what it would take on our end but I’m sure it’ll start with a 1st ++.

 

[hoglund]

I think they should get Saros from Nashville.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I'd be calling on every goalie potentially available Gibson, Markstrom, Merzlikns Saros, Jarry, Gustavson, potentially Freddy if Carolina makes a move.

I like Woll he's shown flashes of brilliance, but this idea that he's "earnef it." is ridiculous when he's spent more time time hurt then he has healthy this year you can't earn anything if you are injured and can't play, which by the way he currently is and unless I missed it, we don't know how long he's out, he could be out until December for all we know.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

I’d love to acquire both Gustavsson and Rossi. Not sure what it would take on our end but I’m sure it’ll start with a 1st ++.

Maybe that's the Marner deal, if there is one and until I see what happens with Shanny I'm not convinced there is going to be.

But if we could get both, I don't have an issue parting with a 1st++

especially if Marner is kept.

A
Domi Matthews Marner

Knies Rossi Nylander

Robertson Tavares McMann top is something that would be intriguing.

 

[Jmo89]

Stolarz or Brossoit at 2yrs 2-3m but still show confidence in Woll and call him your 1A. Keep Jones as #3 and have Hidelby get a ton of starts in the AHL.

If the duo doesn’t work go after the likes of Saros, Hill off-season after, or maybe Hidelby shows he’s ready.

I'd like this but would also be open to a Marner/Saros swap though I find that unlikely.

 

[TMLAM34]

Maybe that's the Marner deal, if there is one and until I see what happens with Shanny I'm not convinced there is going to be.

But if we could get both, I don't have an issue parting with a 1st++

especially if Marner is kept.

A
Domi Matthews Marner

Knies Rossi Nylander

Robertson Tavares McMann top is something that would be intriguing.

Not bad but that top nine is a little too small for my liking… Domi, Marner, Rossi and Robertson all basically under 6ft. Then you add Matthews and Nylander who aren’t a threat physically.

 

[conFABulator]

How has Woll earned anything? He missed 3 months of this season because he got hurt on a muffin of a shot.

And then took himself out of game 7 because he tried to make a save in game 6 that he literally did not need to make, and he didn't even make it.

I fail to see how he's earned anything at this point when he spent more time injured than he did playing this year.

Really? Your criticisms are a play he got injured on and then the fact that he was trying until the very end of a hockey game. You would have been happy if he stopped trying in a playoff game with 10 seconds left because we had a two goal lead?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Not bad but that top nine is a little too small for my liking… Domi, Marner, Rossi and Robertson all basically under 6ft. Then you add Matthews and Nylander who aren’t a threat physically.

That is the downside but the upside is

Domi 29, Matthews 26, Marner 26

Knies 21, Rossi 22, Nylander 28

Robertson 22, Tavares 35 McMann 27

and then you got Cowan and Minten coming up.

Gustavson and Woll are 25.

It's a pretty young group. at least up front and in net.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Really? Your criticisms are a play he got injured on and then the fact that he was trying until the very end of a hockey game. You would have been happy if he stopped trying in a playoff game with 10 seconds left because we had a two goal lead?

I mean if he doesn't take himself out of game 7 they are probably playing today, because chances are he doesn't allow either of the goals that beat Samsonov so in this case? yes.


I like Woll he's shown flashes of brilliance but you can't be the guy if you are constantly injured and he has been.

 

[Hugh Mongusbig]

Reimer is a UFA again.

 

[Niagara Bill]

Re tooling has not geen successful to this point. Our biggest failure was drafting and developing. There is no flow of players from Marlies. Robertson has not been developed, Lily has been a failure, Knies was developed elsewhere. We have seen so many young guys on Marlies just disappear. Some were successful elsewhere, but not here.
Woll maybe a guy?
Dubas was a failure despite his junior background. Keefe could not coach young guys.
I do not think Berube can either.

 

[Woodman19]

I get this feeling we are going to trade for Daniel Vladar, Brad traded for him in Calgary and he's a big 6'5" goalie who showed some promise before. Not that I would necessarily be happy with it.

 

[mydnyte]

to be honest I'd be tempted to run Woll, and Hildi
if we can get one of the good vets at 1 mil or less, then sure, Hildi can get more AHL time, but, goalies go on waivers often, and some are good.
No idea which goalies will become waiver eligible next season, but, often teams cant keep them on the roster. Montreal for example had to run 3 goalies to the trade deadline to avoid waivers, but, a 'better' team will not have that extra cap space.