Rumor: Rumours & Proposals Thread: "Wasting My Time"

[Ritchie Valens]

Well I don't want to see Ken waiting
But maybe the prices are too high today
I still can't keep the deadline from ending
No more messed up reasons for Ken not to pay

Well look at a team with teal
Don't be 'fraid to deal
Maybe someone will want Shore
Don' t let Francis ask for more
We're wasting our time
We're wasting our time
You can't stop the dealing
As it's playoff season
Ken, make the call
And trade it all again
Woah again

Months went by without goaltending
When did our goalies turn from green to red
You took a chance and left Smith standing
And he lost the crease to Koskinen again

*repeat chorus



Absolutely nothing of importance or anything new came out Oilers related today, so we wasted our time. Looks like Soucy or Kulak will be the only move Ken makes tomorrow.

Maybe.

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[Weitz]

I'd put a claim in on the gold medal winning goalie the Leafs just signed.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Spend some assets to shed cap and sell futures for an impact defenseman like Pulock.

 

[belair]

Go get Pavel Zacha.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Holland spent weeks talking to ppl around the league and most importantly McDavid about getting Keith

He landed Hyman and reached on Kane

The TDL is tomorrow, so the posters acting like the world is ending need to relax. Holland isn't gonna do nothing.

 

[OilerTyler]

Holland spent weeks talking to ppl around the league and most importantly McDavid about getting Keith

He landed Hyman and reached on Kane

The TDL is tomorrow, so the posters acting like the world is ending need to relax. Holland isn't gonna do nothing.

I'm not worried that he'll do nothing.

I'm worried that he won't do enough.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Just beat Colorado tomorrow and I’ll be happy.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Agree 100%.

 

[LTIR]

Holland spent weeks talking to ppl around the league and most importantly McDavid about getting Keith

He landed Hyman and reached on Kane

The TDL is tomorrow, so the posters acting like the world is ending need to relax. Holland isn't gonna do nothing.

There is nothing else to do so it's okay for posters to be freaking out seeing what other clubs have done.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Holland spent weeks talking to ppl around the league and most importantly McDavid about getting Keith

He landed Hyman and reached on Kane

The TDL is tomorrow, so the posters acting like the world is ending need to relax. Holland isn't gonna do nothing.

Arguably getting only a 7th d is essentially nothing. Which seems to be what we are looking for. He needs to do more than that. He needs to improve on Smith or move him away, call up Skinner and use that cap elsewhere. Going into the playoffs with Koskinen and Smith would be a failure.

 

[GOilers88]

I'm not worried that he'll do nothing.

I'm worried that he won't do enough.

What is enough?

 

[5 14 6 1]

Arguably getting only a 7th d is essentially nothing. Which seems to be what we are looking for. He needs to do more than that. He needs to improve on Smith or move him away, call up Skinner and use that cap elsewhere. Going into the playoffs with Koskinen and Smith would be a failure.

Tbf Soucy is better than a 7D. He has 14 points and is +9 on a pretty bad Seattle team. He's also 27 and signed for next year.

 

[Seachd]

What is enough?

Cap circumvention.

 

[Oilhawks]

What is enough?

 

[CycloneSweep]

Tbf Soucy is better than a 7D. He has 14 points and is +9 on a pretty bad Seattle team. He's also 27 and signed for next year.

I agree by concern is all the talk that the “prices are too high” for Holland, makes me believe all he will get is a 7D

 

[OilerTyler]

What is enough?

We'll find out throughout the rest of the season and playoffs I guess

 

[PostBradMalone]

Cap circumvention.

Or, like, creating space by trading bad contracts with term for picks like other GMs have shown is possible as recently as this afternoon. Too hard for Ken though, I guess.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Agree 100%.

I don't agree.... getting rid of Barrie makes them weaker offensively... (not to mention that it doesn't make them better defensively either as everyone below him moves up a notch ie Bouchard/whoever else they use at 2RD)... and a 2nd round pick is a magic bean that pays off in 3-5 years... if ever.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Or, like, creating space by trading bad contracts with term for picks like other GMs have shown is possible as recently as this afternoon. Too hard for Ken though, I guess.

This is what I'd like him to do. Kassian and/or Barrie should go.

 

[alphahelix]

If we get a really strong defender who can help our GA and PK and solidify a pairing and play some key minutes, that should help our goaltenders have a chance to hang in there in the playoffs. The F are pretty solid. So Id say the minimum to give this group a fair chance is a legitimate D upgrade.

A really good GM might find a way to use the TDL to set us up for next year by clearing expensice supporting players and replacing them with better value options who are good fits long term. Smith, Kassian, Archibald, Barrie and others could all be moved to restructure the team short and long term.

Soucey and Braun are the reasonable cheap options that might help. There could be player for player swaps for more expensive guys and if Fleury is dealt we could snag a goalie from the acquiring team.

Theres lots of options out there still anyway, and some of them would help.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

I don't agree.... getting rid of Barrie makes them weaker offensively... (not to mention that it doesn't make them better defensively either as everyone below him moves up a notch ie Bouchard/whoever else they use at 2RD... and a 2nd round pick is a magic bean that pays of in 3-5 years... if ever.

If we're not improving the team then at least sell off pieces that you won't be able to keep in the summer. Obviously my preference is to go all in.

 

[nexttothemoon]

Tbf Soucy is better than a 7D. He has 14 points and is +9 on a pretty bad Seattle team. He's also 27 and signed for next year.

I agree. Soucy is very good... he would improve the Oilers D a lot imo.

 

[alphahelix]

You wouldn't trade Barrie if you werent acquiring Braun as a rental or a better defender with tern.

I don't agree.... getting rid of Barrie makes them weaker offensively... (not to mention that it doesn't make them better defensively either as everyone below him moves up a notch ie Bouchard/whoever else they use at 2RD... and a 2nd round pick is a magic bean that pays of in 3-5 years... if ever

 

[GOilers88]

The thing I don't understand with the "if it isn't a goalie don't bother wasting assets" is what goalie do we have to acquire before it's no longer a waste of assets? Which unrealistic to acquire, bonafide starter are we picking up to then make it okay to fill other holes? Why can't we fill other holes while still looking for this goalie? Which team is trading us this starter capable of running a team to the finals now, or in the summer?

Seems like such a pouty stance to take. "We can't win anyways, so I don't wanna try!"

 

[29Beast97Mode]

I don't get why a lot of people want to trade Barrie. He can be a game changer in the playoffs.