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[Canovin]

We may have missed Wyatt by 1 pick. But atleast we’re not the Leaf’s picking goalie Ian Scott one spot before Swayman. And reports are the Leaf’s really liked Swayman.

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

 

[GOilers88]

Trade him and attach the picks needed for the Sharks to take on his full cap hit. Cap space is far more valuable than draft picks with 2 / 29 / 97 coming up in the next few years. Can’t afford a dime of dead cap.

This seems like the most logical solution. Retain and dump. I'd prefer that over another 6 years of buyout penalty.

 

[McShogun99]

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

I have zero problem with the team not picking Wyatt but I will forever be burned by passing on Walstedt and then trading down to draft 2 players that might not even become NHL regulars.

 

[TheNumber4]

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

Coffey would have. And the Stars did. So k?

 

[foshizzle]

The buyout matters next year, how can you swallow 3.25M on Brown (4+ if he re signs) and 5M on Campbell while re-signing players and filling holes during a peak contention season? Unless a trade is engineered to dump cap the buyout is inevitable and necessary. Realistically we have almost 10M in “dead” cap next year, the buyout can cut that back and get a couple real NhL players into the mix.

Because you have McDavid, Draisaitl, Bouchard under market value. Holland has created a mess for sure. You can buy him out the year after or try moving him. Having perpetual dead cap isn’t a great to manage a team.

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

If Wright listened to Coffey and Staios, Oilers would have picked Wyatt

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Green who admitted at the draft, right after the trade, that he never watched Griffin play pro hockey. Hadn’t watched him since junior.

He didn’t make the trade, but I bet he gave a thumbs up.

I’m with you, fire these guys yesterday. You need accountability! Scouts need to do their due diligence before offering up their opinion, that draft was far too important to f*** around and waste those picks.

Edit: was trying to reply to Pavel, idk why it didn’t quote

This was always Chiarelli's deal to make.

New GM coming in with full authority to lurch the moribund franchise forward. He talked about extensive direct viewing of Reinhart at the Memorial Cup and some pro level viewings in the AHL. The Oiler organization support management guys had years of direct intel on Reinhart, favourable for sure and contributory confirmation bias, but this was new big boss man asserting his new authority to mold this team in his image.

Hiring Chiarelli turned out to be a car crash when considering it cost a quality draft asset thanks to an inane, half baked NHL compensation rule for hiring away executive talent (bizarrely applied to a fired guy); that the Bruins were so pissed off at Chiarelli that Oilers couldn't get in on a better, proven Doug Hamilton with better draft collateral than Calgary had; and then to have this guy hollow out the team's NHL roster when they finally revoked his executive washroom keys.

Chiarelli's first trade was an epic disaster.

 

[McShogun99]

This was always Chiarelli's deal to make.

New GM coming in with full authority to lurch the moribund franchise forward. He talked about extensive direct viewing of Reinhart at the Memorial Cup and some pro level viewings in the AHL. The Oiler organization support management guys had years of direct intel on Reinhart, favourable for sure and contributory confirmation bias, but this was new big boss man asserting his new authority to mold this team in his image.

Hiring Chiarelli turned out to be a car crash when considering it cost a quality draft asset thanks to an inane, half baked NHL compensation rule for hiring away executive talent (bizarrely applied to a fired guy); that the Bruins were so pissed off at Chiarelli that Oilers couldn't get in on a better, proven Doug Hamilton with better draft collateral than Calgary had; and then to have this guy hollow out the team's NHL roster when they finally revoked his executive washroom keys.

Chiarelli's first trade was an epic disaster.

But what about that Mcdavid pick????

That was his first move as Oilers GM and he hit it out of the park and set the franchise up for years. I'm surprised they didn't put a statue of him in front of Rogers Place.

 

[belair]

I never understood the urgency in that draft to rapidly improve the team at all costs. Their attempt to get Dougie Hamilton made sense. He was already a young 2nd pair dman who was likely to become a top pair at worst. But the assets moved for Reinhart made no sense even at the time.

It was the ownership push. Katz was tired of the team losing because they were going on a decade plus of no playoff hockey.

At that point the team was convinced the McDavid lottery win would push the Taylor Hall rebuild into the stratosphere. In reality that rebuild was a colossal failure that always assumed they'd recreated the 80s era Oilers that outscored their horrendous defense.

All of the people working in management during that rebuild no longer work.

 

[Mr McV]

But what about that Mcdavid pick????

That was his first move as Oilers GM and he hit it out of the park and set the franchise up for years. I'm surprised they didn't put a statue of him in front of Rogers Place.

Yeah, we're lucky there. With Holland picking McDavid we dodged a bullet.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Yup we're healthy scratching close to $9 million in cap space next year.

Campbell's buyout penalty is only like, 1.5 next year. He won't be back, and is untradeable.

 

[gordonhught]

Campbell's buyout penalty is only like, 1.5 next year. He won't be back, and is untradeable.

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

 

[TheNumber4]

Hear me out. 5 first round picks for Hellybucyk. We will never win without the best goalie in the League and the best two forwards in the League. It’s simple team building guys. Helly is going to take us all the way, check his stats on hockeydb. Team defence is irrelevent, it all comes down to the goalie. That’s the recipe for a Cup.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

You could probably just trade him if you really wanted to. Doubt you’d need to retain or anything either.

 

[Oilhawks]

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

Buying out Kane (who has been valuable once again in the playoffs) while Campbell is still getting Oilers paycheques would be truly LOL-worthy

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

You could probably just trade him if you really wanted to. Doubt you’d need to retain or anything either.

I'd be curious what the perception is of him around the NHL. The rest of the league didn't want to touch him with a ten-foot pole when we first signed him. Wonder how much that's changed. I can't imagine his media interactions this year have done him any good.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I'd be curious what the perception is of him around the NHL. The rest of the league didn't want to touch him with a ten-foot pole when we first signed him. Wonder how much that's changed. I can't imagine his media interactions this year have done him any good.

I suspect his work in the community and effectiveness on the ice has probably changed some minds, re: Kane

 

[Canovin]

Can we buyout Nurse and sign him to 1M?

 

[joestevens29]

I'd be curious what the perception is of him around the NHL. The rest of the league didn't want to touch him with a ten-foot pole when we first signed him. Wonder how much that's changed. I can't imagine his media interactions this year have done him any good.

I don't know I have to think Torts would love him in Philly. Kane and Torts double teaming on that moron that starting the Kevin Hayes rumor would be something to watch

Honestly though, I don't think his media interactions would have negative impact at all. I think more and more teams as a whole are liking when somebody is pushing back at some of these morons that ask questions.

I don't think we are necessarily looking to move him anyway. He brings an element this time drastically lacks in the top 6. Then you have the whole NMC. How many teams that he'd be willing to waive to could actually fit him in?

 

[bobbythebrain]

@Drivesaitl
What in the world were you thinking in defending PLD . Yet again he proves he's trash. Demoted to the 4th line, again, and cost them 4 goals with penalties
LA fans are incensed with that contract

 

[soothsayer]

Gregor on DFO today was suggesting VD will be a 2nd pairing d-man soon. He will be an elite 3rd pairing d-man if he's not there already, but I don't see good things in giving him the right side on the second line. He still has trouble with speedy transitions.

 

[joestevens29]

@Drivesaitl
What in the world were you thinking in defending PLD . Yet again he proves he's trash. Demoted to the 4th line, again, and cost them 4 goals with penalties
LA fans are incensed with that contract

Is anyone defending that guy at all on Kings boards? I don't even know if his own family can defend him after his season.

Guy has had a shit attitude for years with a "me" first mentality.

I don't even know what the answer is for the Kings. Buyout seems the most plausible as if you wait another year that buyout gets worse. Can't see any sane GM trading for the guy given his past for not wanting to stick around.

They fire Blake, it might become easier to buy PLD out. As that would be the first thing I'm suggesting to ownership in the interview.

 

[TheNumber4]

Is anyone defending that guy at all on Kings boards? I don't even know if his own family can defend him after his season.

Guy has had a shit attitude for years with a "me" first mentality.

I don't even know what the answer is for the Kings. Buyout seems the most plausible as if you wait another year that buyout gets worse. Can't see any sane GM trading for the guy given his past for not wanting to stick around.

They fire Blake, it might become easier to buy PLD out. As that would be the first thing I'm suggesting to ownership in the interview.

It’s funny. At PLD’s introductory presser in LA, he was asked what he’s learned since being in the League. And he said something along the lines of to take his mom’s advice and just “be himself” out there. Then he proceeded to change his name and show himself to the League by playing a lazy game.

 

[Drivesaitl]

@Drivesaitl
What in the world were you thinking in defending PLD . Yet again he proves he's trash. Demoted to the 4th line, again, and cost them 4 goals with penalties
LA fans are incensed with that contract

Just think its overblown how bad he is. He's been a good playoff performer before in Columbus and wasn't bad in Winnipeg putting up 27,, 28 goal seasons.

Overpaid? Sure.

In anycase I'm dunking on the Kings fans rabid tendency to beat up their own club. Lots of over reaction. Kings had several players that didn't get much going. Kings aren't good enough to handle Oilers in playoffs. But really this year what teams are? I think only a handful of teams in the league could even hang with us in a series.

LA fans are incensed with anything. Yet their club was better than around 20 NHL clubs this season. I guess thats reason to burn it all down.

 

[Drivesaitl]

No one was picking Wyatt at 23rd aside from Dallas

But why? Stars did and that speaks well to their scouting and not other clubs. Whats the redraft look like now? Dallas won that round bigtime getting a top scorer that low in the round. Really incredible pick. Moreso becuase you think that some Canadian teams could do a bit better mining their own local gold.

I mean the Oilers have wasted how many picks like this?

 

[ManofSteel55]

E. Kane. His buyout creates about 5 million in aggregate savings for the next two seasons (2024/2025 and 2025/2026) with a 1.125 mil cap hit in the two years beyond that (2026/2027 and 2027/2028).

Kane is slowing down and cant defend well anymore.

Kane has value in the playoffs though.