Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Who Do We Land at the Deadline? Usual Suspects or Someone Out of Left Field?

[belair]

Damn. That’s basically getting him for free if you’re dumping Foegele’s deal in the trade.

It'd be pretty greasy if we put him on LTI for the rest of the year to rehab his hip. I kind of like the idea. That prospect is definitely Bourgault though.

 

[PaPaDee]

I've stated many times that Hyman has evolved his game this season and is playing the best hockey of his life.

Find one post where I criticised Hyman this season. Not even the mildest reproach. Go ahead and look. Not one single post to be found.

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[McDNicks17]

Saying Patrick Kane is horrible while defending JP in the same post is hilarious.


Or they love a player that had 90 points last season and is on the last year of his contract.

If you’re trying to win games, you don’t look at a $10M forward with worse on-ice results than Ryan McLeod.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

Where are you getting that from? We know he wanted to go to New York, but we were in on him in the summer and it was rumoured Keith had him interested

It’s merely my own impression of his interview and that his family is there. Rumours are a dime a dozen.

We definitely CAN outbid them. The question is will we, and is it worth it? Imo, if you have to give up Bourgault and a couple 1sts, you still do it because we’re trying to win the cup and that makes us significantly better

LAs prospect pool is light years better than ours, their draft pick spot will probably be better than ours and they have no need for Arizona to retain which costs assets.

They can easily outbid us forcing us into an overpay.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

If you’re trying to win games, you don’t look at a $10M forward with worse on-ice results than Ryan McLeod.

He would blow McLeods numbers out of the water if he came here. Let’s be real.

 

[Soli]

It'd be pretty greasy if we put him on LTI for the rest of the year to rehab his hip. I kind of like the idea. That prospect is definitely Bourgault though.

Perhaps I'm being blinded by the solar flare of Lavoie's hot streak, Tullio riding Lavoie's hot streak, and Petrov tearing the OHL up, but we got prospects on the starboard side that wouldn't make this horrible.

Damn. That’s basically getting him for free if you’re dumping Foegele’s deal in the trade.

Getting out of Foegele's deal next is tasty.

 

[Mr Positive]

Damn. That’s basically getting him for free if you’re dumping Foegele’s deal in the trade.

I honestly wonder if Foegele is a cap dump. Yes, a team has us over a barrel and so can treat him that way, but if they just want the deal to happen, absorbing Foegele is not a bad thing. He plays well. This is nothing like when we traded off Kassian, whose injuries made it hard for him to even play his game. With Foegele, he plays great but has stone hands. That's a good warm body for team to put in, and if there is no danger hitting the cap ceiling what is the loss?

 

[McDNicks17]

He would blow McLeods numbers out of the water if he came here. Let’s be real.

Which spot does he take on the PP?

He hasn’t been good at 5v5 in a few seasons.

 

[McBooya42]

It'd be pretty greasy if we put him on LTI for the rest of the year to rehab his hip. I kind of like the idea. That prospect is definitely Bourgault though.

It would be if I was Chicago, yeah.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Which spot does he take on the PP?

He hasn’t been good at 5v5 in a few seasons.

60 even strength points isn’t terrible. Im not saying to sign him long term. I’m saying depending on the price he would be a huge TDL rental. And yes better than McLeod.

Interesting point about the PP though. I wonder if they would end up trying to find a spot for him. He’s a fantastic passer.

 

[McDNicks17]

60 even strength points isn’t terrible. Im not saying to sign him long term. I’m saying depending on the price he would be a huge TDL rental. And yes better than McLeod.

Interesting point about the PP though. I wonder if they would end up trying to find a spot for him. He’s a fantastic passer.

I just don’t see the point in trading for a guy who has never been a good 5v5 player and who is having an absolutely disastrous season at 5v5 to only play him at 5v5.

They’d be crazy to break up the PP unit, so why not trade for guys who are strong 5v5 players?

 

[Mr Positive]

It’s merely my own impression of his interview and that his family is there. Rumours are a dime a dozen.



LAs prospect pool is light years better than ours, their draft pick spot will probably be better than ours and they have no need for Arizona to retain which costs assets.

They can easily outbid us forcing us into an overpay.

It's rumored that they mostly want picks, and in this draft and next. If I were LA I'd be more worried about giving up 1st rounders than we would.

LA probably wants some protection to make sure they don't give up something too good, especially next season but maybe this season even. That's where we can gamble more imo, and just give the picks straight up. With the prospect pool, I still say that the asset LA would be willing to give up would probably be on par with Bourgault

 

[LTIR]

Are people seriously comparing P.Kane to McLeod?

His linemate is Athanasiou... That alone halves his production

I just don’t see the point in trading for a guy who has never been a good 5v5 player and who is having an absolutely disastrous season at 5v5 to only play him at 5v5.

They’d be crazy to break up the PP unit, so why not trade for guys who are strong 5v5 players?

McD, Drai, P.Kane, Barrie, Nuge

Drai in front of net and Kane at his usual spot.

As if P.Kane isn't a strong ES player..

 

[McDNicks17]

Are people seriously comparing P.Kane to McLeod?

His linemate is Athanasiou... That alone halves his production


McD, Drai, P.Kane, Barrie, Nuge

Drai in front of net and Kane at his usual spot.

As if P.Kane isn't a strong ES player..

Hyman has been huge as the net front.

You’re just giving up a 1st to spend $5M on making the team worse.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

I just don’t see the point in trading for a guy who has never been a good 5v5 player and who is having an absolutely disastrous season at 5v5 to only play him at 5v5.

They’d be crazy to break up the PP unit, so why not trade for guys who are strong 5v5 players?

He’s playing on a team tanking for Bedard. What do you expect?

Kane would be a force in our top 6. In my opinion it would be incredible to watch.

 

[LTIR]

Hyman has been huge as the net front.

You’re just giving up a 1st to spend $5M on making the team worse.

Drai can play net front instead of Hyman. Replacing Foegele/Ryan/Yama with P.Kane in top 6 would not be making this team worse...

If Hyman proves to be better then you just keep Kane off the top PP unit ala the other Kane.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Kane could run the 2nd PP unit. It should make our PP even more lethal. It'd also take some of the ES load off of Drai since he's clearly not 100%.

 

[Biltmore]

That and he'll want to get surgery again due to his factitious disorder you decided he has hey? Probably will happen....

12 Monkeys?

 

[Ibanez]

He’s playing on a team tanking for Bedard. What do you expect?

Kane would be a force in our top 6. In my opinion it would be incredible to watch.

Plus Kane passed to Kane. Back to Kane. Kane shoots. Kane picks up the rebound and scores…

Would just be so hilarious and awesome .

 

[McDNicks17]

He’s playing on a team tanking for Bedard. What do you expect?

Kane would be a force in our top 6. In my opinion it would be incredible to watch.

They’re in that position because of how much Kane and Toews have fallen off a cliff.

Who does he play with? Puck carriers don’t work with McDavid. With Drai? That would be terrifying. You could throw Mark Stone on the other wing and they’d still probably lead the league in goals against.

There aren’t many guys who are a worse fit for this team than Kane.

 

[Fourier]

I honestly wonder if Foegele is a cap dump. Yes, a team has us over a barrel and so can treat him that way, but if they just want the deal to happen, absorbing Foegele is not a bad thing. He plays well. This is nothing like when we traded off Kassian, whose injuries made it hard for him to even play his game. With Foegele, he plays great but has stone hands. That's a good warm body for team to put in, and if there is no danger hitting the cap ceiling what is the loss?

I was looking at the main trade board. Greenway is seen as a guy that could bring in a 3rd or late second. He has two more years left at $3M. He's 6'6" and 241 lbs. But as a a hockey player is he much better than Foegele? If Greenway and his baggage gets a 2nd or 3rd why would Foegele with one year left not be worth a late round pick rather than requiring a 2nd to move. I doubt the Oilers would get much if anything for him in a straight-up trade but I don;t see why they would have to pay much to shed his contract either especially in a bigger deal. Chicago, Anaheim and Arizona need to ice a team next year

 

[CycloneSweep]

Drai can play net front instead of Hyman. Replacing Foegele/Ryan/Yama with P.Kane in top 6 would not be making this team worse...

If Hyman proves to be better then you just keep Kane off the top PP unit ala the other Kane.

So you want to take one of the most dangerous PP scorers of the last decade out of his spot and make him the net front guy? Really?

 

[LTIR]

So you want to take one of the most dangerous PP scorers of the last decade out of his spot and make him the net front guy? Really?

I'm sure the netfront guy doesn't need to just stand there. It is okay for players to move around. Drai has scored from net front and from the Sedins spot on PP before and can easily swap places with others for one timers.

Bottom line: there would be options..

 

[oXo Cube]

I'm not inherently against Patrick Kane per se, but the absolute last thing management should is make moves to change up the historically good power play.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

They’re in that position because of how much Kane and Toews have fallen off a cliff.

Who does he play with? Puck carriers don’t work with McDavid. With Drai? That would be terrifying. You could throw Mark Stone on the other wing and they’d still probably lead the league in goals against.

There aren’t many guys who are a worse fit for this team than Kane.

Yeah not sure I completely agree with this. Look at their lineup.

The lack of credit you give to a player that was 15th in the league in points last year is kind of blowing my mind.