Habsaku
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Anyone has the payrolls for Russian clubs? I'm interested in knowing if they can actually compete money wise with the NHL.
gscarpenter2002 said:Based on "reports" (which everyone around here is only too happy to accept at face value), everyone's payroll is eleventeen billion million shmillion floopillion shmshsmshsmsillion dollars (US).
Spongebob said:Wow that's alot. I am surprised more guys are not signing in Russia.
Oh, it's coming, it's coming. I just heard Avandsgard just signed the Coca-Cola polar bear to a sixty year deal at $350 million per year to play right wing for them. Yeah, it's a lot, but hey - Abramovich is a BILLIONAIRE!!!!!!!!!Spongebob said:Wow that's alot. I am surprised more guys are not signing in Russia.
gscarpenter2002 said:Oh, it's coming, it's coming. I just heard Avandsgard just signed the Coca-Cola polar bear to a sixty year deal at $350 million per year to play right wing for them. Yeah, it's a lot, but hey - Abramovich is a BILLIONAIRE!!!!!!!!!
Spongebob said:Yeah I heard that the Coca-Cola polar bear is huge and has a wicked slapshot. But I have also heard he doesn't play defense.
Pierre Page said:Maybe but still... you don't want get caught your head down when he is comming in for a big hit.
*wonders if he would sign for 500k of coca cola.*
Hockeystatic said:The problem the RSL faces is their revenues aren't even close to the NHL revenues. Their payroll can be inflated and paid by rich people on the short term but it's not something that can happen on the long term.
Den said:Why? If that's the policy of a country to subsidise sports heavily while it attempts to build a system, why would it stop suddenly?
Most teams in Russia are sponsored by rich companies and not by individual rich billionaires. Most of those companies have enormous regional interests and involvement: Tataneft ( practically identical to Tatarstan's administration), Sibneft, Cherepovec or Magnitogorsk steelworks. So the money flow will stop either if there is a total collapse of the Russian economy or if the policy of the country changes as a whole, and not if Abramovitch decided to cut oxygen. In fact he can't since he isn't even the largest shareholder in Sibneft.
The money in Russian hockey is probably not much more than the money in the US swimming program which brings in 0 revenue and nobody sees a problem with that...
Spongebob said:You kind of reminded me of a funny scenario that my dad and I came up with years ago. When our teams goaltending was especially bad we would say they should hire "Hugh Mungus". A 1,000 pound man who is so big that he takes up the entire net. He doesn't even have to move to make the save.
Spongebob said:You kind of reminded me of a funny scenario that my dad and I came up with years ago. When our teams goaltending was especially bad we would say they should hire "Hugh Mungus". A 1,000 pound man who is so big that he takes up the entire net. He doesn't even have to move to make the save.
Hockeystatic said:Most sports team in North America used to be sponsored by rich companies as well. The problem is that over time (I'm not saying tomorrow, it could be 20 years), there will be better investment opportunities for those companies. In a capitalist system, this means that the investors get a better rate of return by investing elsewhere, and this motivates their investment decisions. Sooner or later, there will be changes that happen and the investors will want to see money back from their investment, and if the spendings exceeed the revenues, then the league could crash.
Habsaku said:If the payrolls really are between 14 and 45 million, why are there any Russians in the NHL, especially if 3-4 million is 6 million as people keep saying. Those payrolls would make the RSL a richer league then the NHL with its 39M cap.
Flukeshot said:$14m to $45m is not the payroll, rather Den quotes it as being the budget. Which means that the actual team payrolls are likely between just less than $10m and just over $30m. You have to place operating costs into those budgets.
So the reason that more Russians (and other players as well) don't stay in Russia more often is because there really are only 3-4 teams (Russian posters please correct me if I'm wrong) that actually can have payrolls up to and over $30m. I doubt that many teams actually go for that number. Instead opting to pay one or two players big money.
I'd be interested to know what players have the highest contracts in the RSL.