Prospect Info: Round 7, Pick 188: Ivan Fedotov, G, Reaktor Nizhnekamsk (MHL --> KHL)| 3/29 CSKA contract terminated, may join Flyers soon, new contract 4/23 2x3.25M

[DrinkFightFlyers]

His 3 games here are irrelevant.

This is what the cost is to bring a top KHL goaltender over.

Given the state of the team, I’d much rather take a chance on a potential boom player. If he busts, then we will know and a poor goaltending tandem will help drive a better pick.

Far more important things to focus on then a 2 year signing and paying goalies $5 million total.

This is a fair point. On its face the contract isn't a good deal, but with no cap issues and him having options in the KHL or elsewhere it isn't terrible.

 

[orangecrush8]

This is a fair point. On its face the contract isn't a good deal, but with no cap issues and him having options in the KHL or elsewhere it isn't terrible.

Yep. The Flyers have to see what they have in Fedotov. This is the way to do it.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

If the Flyers truly acted like a rebuilding team in other aspects I could come around to the it doesn’t matter these next two years justification being used. But alas the rebuild only gets used when it’s convenient to justify something that might be polarizing.

They just paid a guy with three NHL games to a deal that suggests he’s a proven backup/1B caliber of goalie which remains to be seen.

Like we couldn’t trade Scott Laughton but when can do this?

 

[Deadpool8812]

That's too much, but I understand why they had to give him that much

 

[BernieParent]

Serious question: how many contracts has Danny signed that make you think: "Wow, that's a great deal for the Flyers"?

Gauthier's

 

[BernieParent]

Is there a way we could use some of our cap space to give Torts some additional money? As long as we’re just throwing money away, we should do something the authentics can really get behind!

Buy a second Kate Smith statue.

 

[Tripod]

His 3 games here are irrelevant.

This is what the cost is to bring a top KHL goaltender over.

Given the state of the team, I’d much rather take a chance on a potential boom player. If he busts, then we will know and a poor goaltending tandem will help drive a better pick.

Far more important things to focus on then a 2 year signing and paying goalies $5 million total.

This logic is so flawed.

He was SUPPOSED to give the Flyers 1 year of playing for 1.1 million. Instead we got parts of 3 games. How about factoring that into the new contract? Did we not bring that up in negotiations? Or like always, we just bend over and get taken advantage of.

5 million total?

So we just ignore they are also paying 5 million for Cal Peterson? Reality is we are spending 10 million on goalies this year....almost 9 in cap hits.

 

[freakydallas13]

This logic is so flawed.

He was SUPPOSED to give the Flyers 1 year of playing for 1.1 million. Instead we got parts of 3 games. How about factoring that into the new contract? Did we not bring that up in negotiations? Or like always, we just bend over and get taken advantage of.

5 million total?

So we just ignore they are also paying 5 million for Cal Peterson? Reality is we are spending 10 million on goalies this year....almost 9 in cap hits.

Peterson only exists when you want to bring up the 1st they got in addition to him. The drawbacks from his contract vanish into thin air once you have to talk about them after the trade was made.

 

[pit]

Serious question: how many contracts has Danny signed that make you think: "Wow, that's a great deal for the Flyers"?

One.

The Wayne Simmonds one day deal.

 

[orangecrush8]

This logic is so flawed.

He was SUPPOSED to give the Flyers 1 year of playing for 1.1 million. Instead we got parts of 3 games. How about factoring that into the new contract? Did we not bring that up in negotiations? Or like always, we just bend over and get taken advantage of.

5 million total?

So we just ignore they are also paying 5 million for Cal Peterson? Reality is we are spending 10 million on goalies this year....almost 9 in cap hits.

Anyone in Fedotov’s camp would (and probably did) argue that the three games here have no impact on his value contract wise given the circumstances. And they’d be right.

Reality is he doesn’t come over without this money. He just sticks it out in the KHL and collects there.

In my eyes its an easy decision to take the chance and see what you have in him.

 

[Curufinwe]

Serious question: how many contracts has Danny signed that make you think: "Wow, that's a great deal for the Flyers"?

Frost, Morgan.
York, Cam.

That is all.

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[freakydallas13]

Frost, Morgan.
York, Cam.

That is all.

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I forgot we resigned Poehling, this team really is bringing back all of the bottom six at a premium and expecting different results.

 

[wuf]

It's worth taking a chance on this guy - he will be in a better environment with this Flyers org and he has a lot of room for improvement, which is what you want for a MONSTER goalie.

 

[FromOyVey2Matvei]

Buy a second Kate Smith statue.

Hilferty was so excited for the “Kate Smith surprise”. He intimated to season ticket holders at a recent event that they were going to bring her back (presumably at the first home playoff game). It’s a shame he’ll have to wait several more years to deliver after that epic collapse.

 

[GKJ]

Hilferty was so excited for the “Kate Smith surprise”. He intimated to season ticket holders at a recent event that they were going to bring her back (presumably at the first home playoff game). It’s a shame he’ll have to wait several more years to deliver after that epic collapse.

If hockey gods exist, that just goes to show that that doesn’t happen unless things truly are going right. They felt entitled to their flowers and now must wait.

 

[ellja3]

I don't understand how franchise famously known for goalie issues is ranting about a potential wild card from Russia with good prior record (even if it was not NHL) for money that is not loco levels.

 

[BernieParent]

I don't understand how franchise famously known for goalie issues is ranting about a potential wild card from Russia with good prior record (even if it was not NHL) for money that is not loco levels.

I hear you but this franchise is also famous for cap mismanagement and high hopes blowing up in our faces.

I can also understand the possible underlying factor of recompensing Fedotov for getting himself out of Russia, but why does it seem like there is always a reward tax on every contract the Flyers sign? I can't think of a last tough but fair contract that was a win-win. Well, there is Frost's 2-year deal but the FO has probably diminished his trade value below even that.

 

[ellja3]

I hear you but this franchise is also famous for cap mismanagement and high hopes blowing up in our faces.

I can also understand the possible underlying factor of recompensing Fedotov for getting himself out of Russia, but why does it seem like there is always a reward tax on every contract the Flyers sign? I can't think of a last tough but fair contract that was a win-win. Well, there is Frost's 2-year deal but the FO has probably diminished his trade value below even that.

I understand your point fully but this is not an ordinary case, as clicheic as it might sound. No one can evaluate cost of convincing person to come from Russia.

 

[GKJ]

I hear you but this franchise is also famous for cap mismanagement and high hopes blowing up in our faces.

I can also understand the possible underlying factor of recompensing Fedotov for getting himself out of Russia, but why does it seem like there is always a reward tax on every contract the Flyers sign? I can't think of a last tough but fair contract that was a win-win. Well, there is Frost's 2-year deal but the FO has probably diminished his trade value below even that.

Who else here has a ‘reward tax?’

 

[Curufinwe]

Hilferty was so excited for the “Kate Smith surprise”. He intimated to season ticket holders at a recent event that they were going to bring her back (presumably at the first home playoff game). It’s a shame he’ll have to wait several more years to deliver after that epic collapse.

Nice to know they're focused on the important things going into year 50 since their last Cup.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I forgot we resigned Poehling, this team really is bringing back all of the bottom six at a premium and expecting different results.

I don’t mind him if he is slotted right. But there is the problem

 

[freakydallas13]

I don’t mind him if he is slotted right. But there is the problem

It's less I think he's a bad player (he's a perfectly cromulent bottom sixer) and more this team is dedicated to resigned everyone on their current mediocre roster and hoping Michkov pushes them over the edge to a cup.

Aka, another decade of futility, coming right up.

 

[BernieParent]

Who else here has a ‘reward tax?’

Thanks for your question, GKJ. The first one who comes to mind is Seeler, who got too much ($2.7 million) for too long (4 years). Tippett got too much of a raise ($6.2 million) for the full 8 years. Laughton and Couturier's contracts aren't a matter of salary but length. Deslauriers has a contract ... for 4 years with a modified NTC for 2 of them.

Historically, who could forget the following:

 

[GKJ]

Thanks for your question, GKJ. The first one who comes to mind is Seeler, who got too much ($2.7 million) for too long (4 years). Tippett got too much of a raise ($6.2 million) for the full 8 years. Laughton and Couturier's contracts aren't a matter of salary but length. Deslauriers has a contract ... for 4 years with a modified NTC for 2 of them.

Historically, who could forget the following:

A tax would suggest that there are other reasons they get the deal they had other than their evaluations. A lot of teams do what you're saying, they're not the only ones.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Nice to know they're focused on the important things going into year 50 since their last Cup.

Gotta get the fans engaged. You know, the ones that have been around forever and aren't going anywhere. Nevermind the entire generation they missed who have no clue who Kate Smith is.