BelovedIsles
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I think the theme is the ‘least of their problems’ includes the ‘core’ of flawed, but relied upon players such as Barzal, Sorokin, and Dobson. I guess all will be cured when the scrubs are gone and poof, these guys put on their bat capes and lead the team to glory. Seems like an unlikely story, but worth a try, I guess.He hasn't been as elite (e.g. softies), but he's faced the most shots, at the hardest spots on the ice.
He's the least of their problems; I'm confident he'll have a bounceback season.
This is 100% up to the owners, and whether they could come to a consensus. Tbh, I don't see it happening. But if the cap is going to increase significantly in 25-26, that might make pursuing a buyout that will hit harder in that season ( for example buying out Lee) easier to pull off.This is big news and there is a significant chance that the League and NHL PA will go beyond the 5% MAX increase from the MOU they signed in the middle of the pandemic. It should have been higher last year and hopefully, we see a cap close to if not 90m when it is official.
Vegas is not a different animal. Players want to play there. They are aggressive because the owner wants them to be.
They want to win AND they don’t care about waiting on prospects to turn into players.
They use them and their draft picks to improve for the here and now and sign guys. They also move guys that they no longer deem worthy of their mission - again, they can do that bc players want to play there. It matters on how you operate because they backfill easily.
Bwahaha!!We need to hold the Isles owners and front office accountable
Maybe one of the reasons players want to play in Vegas....Is because the owner might be the most aggressive in the entire NHL.
The best player Lou acquired by far was Horvat. The rest of the time while he's shipping off 1sts for middle-level talent in Pageau, Palmieri, and Romanov, Vegas was out there putting a full court press on to acquire guys like Stone, Eichel, and Pietrangelo.
And I'm sure the retort will be that none of those players wanted to come here. And if so then I'd say if you can't lure a player to NY then your owner isn't being aggresssive enough or your GM isn't doing his job. Horvat had no problem committing the best years of his career to Long Island…Once the Islanders offered a contract commiserate with his asking price.
Your posts are difference makers, that's for sure.You mean the year where they made the playoffs because the Pens choked a game against the worst team in the league? Where Sorokin dragged this team into the playoffs? You want me to credit Lou? Is the bar that low here? Man, if that's the case then Steve Stirling was a pretty good coach, no?
And here's a direct question: is Romanov a difference maker?
Isn't that what they've been doing?The key is to draft, develop and/or trade for talented players that will want to stay here long term.
The key is to draft, develop and/or trade for talented players that will want to stay here long term.
No, it isn't.Isn't that what they've been doing?
Barzal, Dobson, Lee, Pelech, Pulock, Sorokin. All drafted, developed and signed long term. Romanov, Horvat, Varlamov, Palmieri, Pageau... all traded for and signed long term.No, it isn't.
Why do you think we are where we are? We haven't had a first round pick since '19 and the team results in Bridgeport, not to mention the quality of the players that they have called up suggests that whatever development program this organization has isn't working. As for the trades, talented is relative term and everyone can put their own definition on it, but in the end, not talented enough.
But. you don't get to look at prospects and play out fantasies in your head about how they'll put up 100 point seasons next to each other.they have definitely subscribed to the strategy of of draft, develop and/or trade for talented players that will want to stay here long term.
This bar needs like 20 more orders of scotchWe’ve won 30 of 71 games this year and still getting “we’re not winning the Cup anyway” banter. The bar has sunk through the floor and is hurtling towards the earth’s core.
well lets be real, Sorokin isn't the first (or last) elite goalie who has struggled. Remember when Quick went through the bends in LA?He hasn't been as elite (e.g. softies), but he's faced the most shots, at the hardest spots on the ice.
He's the least of their problems; I'm confident he'll have a bounceback season.
What, so you get to stop when you've drafted a few decent players? Who after Dobson shows any real promise? And that was 6 years ago. Just look to Bridgeport, what more do you need to see? And just by way of comparison, TB in the past 10 years has won two cups, been to four finals, 6 conference finals, made the playoffs and had deep runs every year but one and yet, with even fewer draft picks than we've had and those deeper in the draft, there is Syracuse in first place in their division. Development, it's what they do well but I'm not sure it's a word even in Lou's vocabulary.Barzal, Dobson, Lee, Pelech, Pulock, Sorokin. All drafted, developed and signed long term. Romanov, Horvat, Varlamov, Palmieri, Pageau... all traded for and signed long term.
"Not talented enough" is a valid argument (though there are some pretty talented names on that list) but they have definitely subscribed to the strategy of of draft, develop and/or trade for talented players that will want to stay here long term.
The only drafted/developed player of recent vintage on your list is Dobson. That fact is pretty damning in and of itself.Barzal, Dobson, Lee, Pelech, Pulock, Sorokin. All drafted, developed and signed long term. Romanov, Horvat, Varlamov, Palmieri, Pageau... all traded for and signed long term.
"Not talented enough" is a valid argument (though there are some pretty talented names on that list) but they have definitely subscribed to the strategy of of draft, develop and/or trade for talented players that will want to stay here long term.
Lets be real: the islanders treat Bridgeport like a deadbeat child and they play in one of the worst AHL towns as well. I don't even blame the organization because they should just move them to Nassau instead. would be so much better, especially for player development.What, so you get to stop when you've drafted a few decent players? Who after Dobson shows any real promise? And that was 6 years ago. Just look to Bridgeport, what more do you need to see? And just by way of comparison, TB in the past 10 years has won two cups, been to four finals, 6 conference finals, made the playoffs and had deep runs every year but one and yet, with even fewer draft picks than we've had and those deeper in the draft, there is Syracuse in first place in their division. Development, it's what they do well but I'm not sure it's a word even in Lou's vocabulary.
As for your list of tradees, as I said, not talented enough, particularly given what they cost and what the results have been.
There are ebbs and flows. When you're in more of a win-now mode, you use the draft picks to acquire NHL-ready players. My point however, remains. The Islanders have drafted, developed and/or traded for talented players that signed long term. That's been the strategy (albeit with mixed results). I'd be down with more focus on the draft and develop side of things and given the lack of trades at the deadline, I'd say that is what they are doing.What, so you get to stop when you've drafted a few decent players? Who after Dobson shows any real promise? And that was 6 years ago. Just look to Bridgeport, what more do you need to see? And just by way of comparison, TB in the past 10 years has won two cups, been to four finals, 6 conference finals, made the playoffs and had deep runs every year but one and yet, with even fewer draft picks than we've had and those deeper in the draft, there is Syracuse in first place in their division. Development, it's what they do well but I'm not sure it's a word even in Lou's vocabulary.
As for your list of tradees, as I said, not talented enough, particularly given what they cost and what the results have been.
but when they did that approach, they failed miserably. We need the right men in charge. That may mean getting Eric Tulsky or anyone from those forward thinking organizations.The only drafted/developed player of recent vintage on your list is Dobson. That fact is pretty damning in and of itself.
Continually trading prime assets for good but not game changing players who are then signed to expensive long term deals hasn’t worked out. It was worth a shot and it gave us some thrills but that was several years ago.
Time for a new approach.
Maybe one of the reasons players want to play in Vegas....Is because the owner might be the most aggressive in the entire NHL.
Wasn't Kyle Dubas sold as exactly that? Or are you campaigning for AJ Mleczko for GM? Fits all the DEI stuff!but when they did that approach, they failed miserably. We need the right men in charge. That may mean getting Eric Tulsky or anyone from those forward thinking organizations.
lets not go into thatWasn't Kyle Dubas sold as exactly that? Or are you campaigning for AJ Mleczko for GM? Fits all the DEI stuff!
Would instantly make us the favorite hockey team of The View and HRC! Hillary could take that fake Yankees cap and recycle it.
Wow, not even Lou related? Didn't he take over as not just GM, but President. Wasn't/isn't it his job to make this a first class organization top to bottom? I thought whole point of Lou, and all of that respectability bullshit, was about undoing what has been going on for decades. Silly me.Lets be real: the islanders treat Bridgeport like a deadbeat child and they play in one of the worst AHL towns as well. I don't even blame the organization because they should just move them to Nassau instead. would be so much better, especially for player development.
their poor AHL track record isnt even Lou related: its been going on for decades.