Confirmed with Link: Rizzo to Flyers for Kase the younger

[spockBokk]

Hope is something bigger, probably not…

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[spockBokk]

Useful depth I guess, probably also a “solid” from Waddell for the Canes getting TDA for free.

The Flyers get the prospect they originally wanted plus a late pick and keep a retention spot open. Canes get TDA $850K cheaper,

 

[Stickpucker]

Was this an IOU?

Kase is 26 with 7 games of NHL experience who I doubt ever sees a game for the Canes. Then we added a 5th on top of that?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

This is a bad move if correct. I get trying to keep the peace but we trade for Kase for more than what TDA would have cost?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

This is a bad move if correct.

We traded a penny for a half penny, probably as part of a deal that got us a dime for a nickel. Who gives a shit?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

We traded a penny for a half penny. Who gives a shit?

Pennies still have value

 

[A Star is Burns]

Yeah, this just seems like a makeup for a situation that got out of everyone's control. I don't have a major problem with that.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Pennies still have value

And you think we fans are in a position to assess the value of those pennies? We can't even assess the dollars right.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

non impact trade, Rizzo was never gonna do anything for us as much as I had fun following him and watching him with Denver outperform his draft position. Would've preferred we just traded him for a 5th or something and not gave up a pick and got Kase but whatever, definitely the borg doing Philly a solid for the way the TDA thing played out -- that isn't something to overlook as relationships among front offices are very important.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

And you think we fans are in a position to assess the value of those pennies? We can't even assess the dollars right.

We do you care if I have a feeling about dollars or pennies?

 

[spockBokk]

The buyout, the Canes subsequently signing TDA for less than $2.5M and now this trade seems much more cap circumvention than the original trade.

 

[Lempo]

The buyout, the Canes subsequently signing TDA for less than $2.5M and now this trade seems much more cap circumvention than the original trade.

Teaches them to nix our shenanigans.

 

[MinJaBen]

This is the first "Past Considerations" trade I can recall.

I didn't realize we had the older brother of future considerations in the organization.

 

[Lempo]

This is the first "Past Considerations" trade I can recall.

I didn't realize we had the older brother of future considerations in the organization.

[nonchalant whistling]

 

[WreckingCrew]

This is the first "Past Considerations" trade I can recall.

I didn't realize we had the older brother of future considerations in the organization.

Yea, that's basically what we're doing. The thing with TDA somehow bombed out weird, we're saying "sorry" by giving them Rizzo (who we were originally going to trade) and a 5th. Kase is a non-entity in this case and is basically just freeing up a contract spot for them most likely. Whatever, it's helping build some goodwill so if the Flyers are out at TDL they might be willing to work with us on a playoff-push deal or something.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Fans want win-lose. GMs want win-win.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

This is the first "Past Considerations" trade I can recall.

I didn't realize we had the older brother of future considerations in the organization.

The trade at the draft was cap circumvention in letter but not spirit.

This is cap circumvention in spirit but not letter.

 

[Lempo]

The trade at the draft was cap circumvention in letter but not spirit.

This is cap circumvention in spirit but not letter.

And both together we got a case of quantum circumvention.

In a league that will take a maul and bludgeon the cat dead if some Schroedinger tried to get creative with things.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

TDA @ 50% and Kase’s rights

For

Rizzo and a 5th

Seems plausible

 

[Lempo]

TDA @ 50% and Kase’s rights

For

Rizzo and a 5th

Seems plausible

Taking this as the intended basis, the way things went PHI ended up paying 2 x $1.67M = $3.33M instead of 1 x $2.5M but saving a retention slot. Is that worth a 5th?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

We do you care if I have a feeling about dollars or pennies?

You shared your opinion, yes? I shared mine in return.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

You shared your opinion, yes? I shared mine in return.

Well i don’t appreciate your opinion of my opinion. So how do you like that opinion? Thats how i fight and I’ll meet you behind the bojangles

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Henry Kase always said David is the best of the brothers so I’m excited to see what he can do in a canes jersey.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Taking this as the intended basis, the way things went PHI ended up paying 2 x $1.67M = $3.33M instead of 1 x $2.5M but saving a retention slot. Is that worth a 5th?

I don’t think so. At the same time we likely just completed the real trade after the league nixed it for cap circumvention. We had to renege on trade after signing our UFAs because we didn’t have enough space to gain cap throughout the season. So we finished the trade later after the buyout but not too close to the buyout.

Since we just discussed watched star wars movies. The whole star wars episode 6 thing.

Luke: Vader’s on that ship. Im compromising the mission.

Han: in case they don’t go for this we have to get out of here in hurry. Chewie keep your distance without looking like you’re keeping your distance.

Chewie: mumble noises

Han: i dont know, fly casual.

We had to trade casually here.

 

[A Star is Burns]

And both together we got a case of quantum circumvention.

In a league that will take a maul and bludgeon the cat dead if some Schroedinger tried to get creative with things.