trippyime said:I do. The guy is not a monster that some fools here make him out to be.
trippyime said:I do. The guy is not a monster that some fools here make him out to be.
AgentNaslund said:Darryl Sutter's style of hockey will only work with a bunch of nothing to lose no skill type of players. A team with a bunch of Allstars will not except his defensive style of hockey. It works in Calgary cause the players there are not skilled enough, thats why they follow the Suter style to produce results. I wouldnt mind keeping the same coaching staff. We only lost because of the team that was put together this year. Patt Quinn, and Hitchcock are one best coaches the leauge have to offer. The team that was put together was too slow, and in the end, was built, for best of 7 series. Not single game elimations. Nash, Thorton, Bertuzzi, Heatly, all failed to produce anything. They were too slow.
therealdeal said:We had the right team, it just didn't come together, its time to split up the coaching group that lost, not that I think its their fault, but they have gone 3 times, I don't think its unfair to try something new.
Another thing, 3 of the 4 guys you named are tried, tested and true on the international rink, its just that this team didn't come together. We had fast, skilled, smart players, they were just never a team.
Sorry, read the period after Iginla as a commaRakiet said:I suggest that you read this and tell me where it says Iggy was crying, and this is the only part that mentioned him:
Rick Middleton said:Iginla, Gagne and Nash didn't contribute offensively, but they didn't take away from the team as much as Bertuzzi did by his stupid penalties. That put him in the minus column whereas they, along with Draper, were merely zeroes.
Phanuthier said:Maybe it'll wake these guys up. Iginla and Bertuzzi have slept walked through the year thus far.
Shane said:Bertuzzi only took three penalties during the whole tournament. McCabe took nine, Pronger and Lecavalier took eight, Nash took five.
Yeah, Bert was terrible, but c'mon. There were eight players that took just as many or more penalties than him.
Shane said:Exactly, which boggles my mind as to why they were on the team in the first place. Gretzky maintained for months that he would pick the best players at the time when it came to select the team. And guys having terrible years like Bertuzzi, Iginla, and Doan (among others) are named to the team? Gretzky had his team picked in August. And if you ask me, that's the single biggest reason we lost.
Rick Middleton said:Iginla, Gagne and Nash didn't contribute offensively, but they didn't take away from the team as much as Bertuzzi did by his stupid penalties. That put him in the minus column whereas they, along with Draper, were merely zeroes.
Heatley played well enough. Not great. Not good. Well enough. Hardly a ringing endorsement, but not a condemnation either.
Thornton is Thornton. He floats. He drifts. He takes entire periods off. He rates barely above Bertuzzi simply because he didn't take boneheaded penalties. That would involve effort on his part, which is lacking at most times. And before you rip into me, I like Thornton. I just know what he brings to the table. Which is mediocre effort given his talent.
AgentNaslund said:Darryl Sutter's style of hockey will only work with a bunch of nothing to lose no skill type of players. A team with a bunch of Allstars will not except his defensive style of hockey. It works in Calgary cause the players there are not skilled enough, thats why they follow the Suter style to produce results.
What???????????clay said:You, among many people on these boards, are very ignorant.
You are one of many who rag on Bertuzzi, and continue to dwell on something that should be long forgotten by now (the Moore hit of course). Bertzzui got a grand total of I believe 6 penalty minutes in thos 5 games. Only one of those was a boneheaded penalty. And how you can say Nash didn't take as many stupid penalties as Bertuzzi blows my mind. Isn't that the reason why he was benched for two or three third periods in a row? So how about next time before you blame the tournament on somebody, you wake up and look around. Noone can be singly pointed out for Canada's loss. Some people consistantly seem to forget that hockey is a team sport. Last time I checked, there is no I in team.
BlueAndWhite said:McCabe took four penalties. Lecavlier took six. They both had 10 minute misconduct's, so their PIM totals look inflated.
Shane said:Whoops, you're right. My mistake.
Still, four and six are more than three.
wealthmanager said:What???????????
Bertuzzi has the mind of an ape.
When my pal catered the Canucks Christmas party, at Jovo's house he was telling anyone that would listen that he was going to hump his wife in the toilet.
Who would want that hulking, sulking, useless wimp on any team?
Garfield said:If scoring goals is more important to these players than wins, we don't them anyway. Team Finland showed that a defensive style game suits the international level perfectly. I couldn't care less about how many goals they score as long as they win.
Sutter Hockey = Wins
If Hockey Canada cares about anything else, shame on them.
BlueAndWhite said:I know. I've already pointed this out to RM in my prior posts in this thread.
Edit: Looks like I can't count, and you have too much faith in my counting skills.
Lecavalier only took three penalties for a total of 6 minutes. The rest of the
numbers are right, I swear.
Roughneck said:I assume GM Place will be using Olympic sized ice in 2010, before you highlight the obvious, I'm curious whether anybody knows if the IIHF and IOC will go the WJC route and use North American ice for the tourney?
John Flyers Fan said:Lowe ???
bert said:The differece between Pronger and McCabe. Pronger was good at the beginning at the tournament and got worse and worse as it went along to the point where he was a giant liability in the end. The tougher it got the more out of place he looked. McCabe was terrible at the start but got better every game, by the time Russia rolled around he had the second best game of all the Canadian defenders. Atleast McCabe steps up when it counts he doesnt fold like a cheap 6'6 tent.
John Flyers Fan said:Lowe ???
rohan said:The Olympic disaster wasn't Gretzky's fault, it wasn't Quinn's fault, it was the players fault. This, unfortunately, is the typical sports drama: the team loses, coach/GM gets canned/resigns, even though the players are 98% at fault for it. Wayne Gretzky put an all-star team together, it had all the talent, all Pat Quinn needed to do was formulate lines and do a little coaching. He did that, the team didn't come together.
Gretzky could have made better decisions regarding personnel (Staal, Crosby, Marleau), but he still put together a team capable of winning Gold easily.