CarlRacki
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ScottyBowman said:LOL. You are one of the pro-owner suckers who thinks that ticket prices will fall. Take an econ class and learn about supply and demand.
Where did he say that?
ScottyBowman said:LOL. You are one of the pro-owner suckers who thinks that ticket prices will fall. Take an econ class and learn about supply and demand.
ScottyBowman said:LOL. You are one of the pro-owner suckers who thinks that ticket prices will fall. Take an econ class and learn about supply and demand.
jcab2000 said:I completely understand that owners will charge as much as people are willing to pay for tickets. My point remains the same.
snakepliskin said:anybody know how "the hockey news" got info off of the nhlpa's "internal website"?
John Flyers Fan said:Wanna explain that big profit sharing again, and how that's a big boon to the players.
Even if it's 50/50 over $100 million profit, and somehow the NHL reported making a $200 million profit, the NHL players would on average see an extra $71,000.
Somehow I don't see that extra $71,000 meaning all that much.
jcab2000 said:I completely understand that owners will charge as much as people are willing to pay for tickets. My point remains the same.
John Flyers Fan said:That's now why.
The large majority of fans are against the players for the following reasons
#1. They root for a team that doesn't spend a sginificant amount of money, and think this will give their team a better chance to win
and/or
#2. Most people here have actually played hockey at one time or another, and would much rather be playing hockey for a living that whatever it is they currently do. Therefore players should be greatful and willing to play this game for $50,000 a year.
Icey said:And that's okay? It's fine that the owners want to hose us fans on ticket prices, concessions, merchandise etc., but god forbid we pay a player a cent more than us fans think they deserve, afterall they make more in a year than most of us will make in a lifetime.
ScottyBowman said:So it makes you feel better that some old rich guy upstairs is pocketing the money instead of the players? This is what all the pro-owner fans want.
jcab2000 said:IMO, the price of tickets is going to come down because of attendance issues,
John Flyers Fan said:That's now why.
The large majority of fans are against the players for the following reasons
#1. They root for a team that doesn't spend a sginificant amount of money, and think this will give their team a better chance to win
and/or
#2. Most people here have actually played hockey at one time or another, and would much rather be playing hockey for a living that whatever it is they currently do. Therefore players should be greatful and willing to play this game for $50,000 a year.
Icey said:And that's okay? It's fine that the owners want to hose us fans on ticket prices, concessions, merchandise etc., but god forbid we pay a player a cent more than us fans think they deserve, afterall they make more in a year than most of us will make in a lifetime.
I in the Eye said:
ScottyBowman said:So it makes you feel better that some old rich guy upstairs is pocketing the money instead of the players? This is what all the pro-owner fans want.
ScottyBowman said:So it makes you feel better that some old rich guy upstairs is pocketing the money instead of the players? This is what all the pro-owner fans want.
You, and the guy you quoted, have no idea. Sorry. The reasons you and him quoted mean nothing to me, and probably most here (hence the other people that replied to his post).JWI19 said:Dont forget class envy. Thats the problem the players are public figures they are seen and heard and it pisses some people off they make so much money. While most of the owners dont say much in the press are rarely on TV and we dont know much about them. You could to the nhlpa web site and find out what every player makes. Any idiot could figure it out, while it's almost impossible to figure out what the owners made/loss etc. Now try and find how much revenue Mike Illitch gets from Fox Sports Detroit, or WXYT or revenue from parking and merchandise, etc. For most cases you cant, that info isn't out there.
Your post contradicts itself. It's true few people know exactly how much most any given owner is worth, but most fans are well aware that a typical owner on average is far wealthier than any player. In that case, how can class envy be a cause for people taking an anti-player stance if it's known that owners are wealthier? Makes no sense.JWI19 said:Dont forget class envy. Thats the problem the players are public figures they are seen and heard and it pisses some people off they make so much money. While most of the owners dont say much in the press are rarely on TV and we dont know much about them. You could to the nhlpa web site and find out what every player makes. Any idiot could figure it out, while it's almost impossible to figure out what the owners made/loss etc. Now try and find how much revenue Mike Illitch gets from Fox Sports Detroit, or WXYT or revenue from parking and merchandise, etc. For most cases you cant, that info isn't out there.
Funny thing is that I have not heard ONE player complaining that they don't make enough money. All I have heard is that they want to work in a free market system, which is not unreasonable nor is complaining.jcab2000 said:IMO, the price of tickets is going to come down because of attendance issues, but that's not related to my original point that the average person cannot relate to players making millions of dollars and complaining about it.
Icey said:Funny thing is that I have not heard ONE player complaining that they don't make enough money. All I have heard is that they want to work in a free market system, which is not unreasonable nor is complaining.
But who I have heard complain is people on this board who seem to do nothing but complain about the greedy player and how much money they make. Perhaps thats because they are jealous.
CarlRacki said:If they want to work in a free-market system, then why are they not supporting the elimination of guaranteed contracts? Why are they in favor of minimum salaries? Why do they require that their agents be certified by the union? Heck, why are they in a union at all?
Icey said:Funny thing is that I have not heard ONE player complaining that they don't make enough money. All I have heard is that they want to work in a free market system, which is not unreasonable nor is complaining.
But who I have heard complain is people on this board who seem to do nothing but complain about the greedy player and how much money they make. Perhaps thats because they are jealous.