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If you told Hawks fans that Saad/Bickel would be on the top line before last season, I assume you would get a similar response as the OP
If you told Hawks fans that Saad/Bickel would be on the top line before last season, I assume you would get a similar response as the OP
Yep. They whined about it constantly, specifically because they wanted Sharp/Toews/Kane all on one line. You have to allot rookies the opportunity to succeed. And they are not going to do so regulated to the fourth line. There are 82 games. What harm is there giving Kassian first line minutes for say, twenty or so?
Yep. They whined about it constantly, specifically because they wanted Sharp/Toews/Kane all on one line. You have to allot rookies the opportunity to succeed. And they are not going to do so regulated to the fourth line. There are 82 games. What harm is there giving Kassian first line minutes for say, twenty or so?
what did kassian do to deserve top line minutes last season? i'm sorry but scoring at an unsustainable rate over 5 games doesn't cut it, especially when he looked invisible when not scoring over those 5 games other than the odd shift (preparing for the lynch mob on this one.) this is eerily sounding like the hodgson situation when lots of people were clamoring for more ice time with him as well, but this is professional sports and opportunities are earned not given.
People who are so dead set against Kassian with the twins don't understand the larger picture and the domino effect it could create that would make the Canucks a better team.
well if it's that easy then why didn't the coach put him back with the twins when kesler came back?
Are we talking about the coach who was fired because he wasn't getting the job done anymore? The coach who unless a player was his favourite wouldn't give higher risk players ice time? How did not moving Kassian to the Sedins wing do for the Canucks last season?
Don't get it.
Like I've said maybe a thousand times, I'd rather have 3 good lines than just 1 really good line and 2 garbage lines.
we're talking about the coach who makes millions more than HFheroes, the coach who just signed a contract with one of the more prestigious teams in the NHL, the coach who has more wins than any other in canucks history. there are things to knock AV on, but not playing kassian with the twins isn't one of them.
this "domino effect" you're talking about it is largely overblown because you need to have a player that would actually be a difference maker when slotted into first line. kassian isn't that, and would likely be more of a liability than anything else due to his play without the puck.
Wow, what a thought provoking argument...
He has another year under his belt, he's been working out like crazy this off-season, I want to see how he does in a few games before saying that he'll be a nightmare in the top 6 this upcoming season.
Guess what, he's only 22 years old. He's still improving, and now he has a head coach that will give young players chances to succeed. He's not going to develop if we use the AV strategy of keeping him on the 4th line.
I'll believe it when I see it, personally. He's done nothing at all to earn that spot, and it just doesn't make any sense to me to remove Burrows from that duo. Torts could well just be saying these "he's going to be playing with the Sedin's" things to motivate Zack in the off-season.
I'd think that he probably makes the most sense on line 3 with Schroeder and Hansen.
i am not opposed to giving kassian some time with the twins at the start of the season, my previous posts were talking about last season and how i felt he didn't earn top line minutes with his play. i hope my expectations for kassian this season are wrong and he plays lights out at both ends of the rinkHonestly I don't see why playing Kassian with the twins to start the season to see how it plays out is such a bad idea. If it works, it makes the Canucks a better team. He has the skills to be succesfull in this role.
How well did not playing Kassian there do for the Canucks last season and playoffs? I'm not saying this move alone will change the Canucks fortunes but if it works it will go a long way to helping the Canucks get back to the level they were at in 2011.
Do you really want Torts to just play the same lines as last season and hope for a different result?
i am not opposed to giving kassian some time with the twins at the start of the season, my previous posts were talking about last season and how i felt he didn't earn top line minutes with his play. i hope my expectations for kassian this season are wrong and he plays lights out at both ends of the rink
AV: "Sorry, Mike, you know how I roll. He lost his man this one time playing Hank and Danny, so now he's a enforcer forever. "What did he do to be taken off the first line though
What did he do to be taken off the first line though
players get moved around the lineup all the time throughout the season. what did kassian do to earn 1st line minutes back once he got demoted?AV: "Sorry, Mike, you know how I roll. He lost his man this one time playing Hank and Danny, so now he's a enforcer forever. "
edit: generally, that's a disingenuous take of AV I just made, though in the instance of Kassian I feel he was never given the opportunity to learn on the job.
I kind of feel like both Booth and Kassian are best utilized by being played together, personally
we're talking about the coach who makes millions more than HFheroes, the coach who just signed a contract with one of the more prestigious teams in the NHL, the coach who has more wins than any other in canucks history. there are things to knock AV on, but not playing kassian with the twins isn't one of them.
this "domino effect" you're talking about it is largely overblown because you need to have a player that would actually be a difference maker when slotted into first line. kassian isn't that, and would likely be more of a liability than anything else due to his play without the puck.