GDT: rags @ SAUNA

[Big Daddy Cane]

Penguins fans saying you lost the Guentzel trade already lol. God my fellow fans are such morons.

Given where they were in this run, it was the right move, regardless of the season outcome or how the prospects/pick pan out. It was time to go for it. No regrets there.

 

[hblueridgegal]

While this season feels like a letdown again.. after the first few Isles games you could kinda see it coming. The whole season had a weird vibe to me. Maybe it was all the contract situations hanging over everyone's heads and the pressure of the last hurrah. I
Still, nothing can hurt me like Kris Jenkins..live right in front of me.

As for the coaching and game plans, I don't see much changing there even if new assistants arrive. I don't see a lot of flexibility there.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

You boys must be cheerleaders like RBA .

Said on the main board Andersen over Kochetkov would cost us this series. Nobody ain't got nothing til say til after it all happens though.

Fanaticism doesn't mean you must lose objectivity. Sadly, sports forums are where you find those types of fans.

You posted a lot in the 3 losses, didn’t post much in the 2 wins (except to poke fun at Ranger fans. Classy) and now come back after a loss to act like you’re hot ****.

You’re right that there are different types of fans. You appear to be one of the worst kind.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

You boys must be cheerleaders like RBA .

Said on the main board Andersen over Kochetkov would cost us this series. Nobody ain't got nothing til say til after it all happens though.

Fanaticism doesn't mean you must lose objectivity. Sadly, sports forums are where you find those types of fans.

And yet Kooch did nothing to take the crease

 

[StrmSurge]

And yet Kooch did nothing to take the crease

He's 24, great stats, played a solid game 3. And isn't doing back flips in goal , can actually track the puck . Can hold an edge on his skates. I'm sold.

RBA makes the decisions and "fans" can't speak the truth about their awful coach.

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

Our coach torpedoed our season based upon stubbornness and his loyalty to a fault. Good for us.

See ya'll next season.

 

[StrmSurge]

You posted a lot in the 3 losses, didn’t post much in the 2 wins (except to poke fun at Ranger fans. Classy) and now come back after a loss to act like you’re hot ****.

You’re right that there are different types of fans. You appear to be one of the worst kind.

My feelings about our offensive scheme did not change after game 4. I mentioned that after we won. Didn't think I needed to reiterate that point.

Same thing with RBA and same thing with Andersen. I called Freddy over Pyotr moronic after game 3 , despite the loss.

I called RBAs lack of a ability to adjust very early. Would you like me to go pull these posts for proof?

Some other member even dogged me for being objective about what will ultimately be our shortcoming after game 4.

Lastly, I saw 0 canes fans challenge my assertions in those Main board GDTs.

So you were saying?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

He's 24, great stats, played a solid game 3. And isn't doing back flips in goal , can actually track the puck . Can hold an edge on his skates. I'm sold.

RBA makes the decisions and "fans" can't speak the truth about their awful coach.

Kooch was minus for GSAx in his game. Freddie just regressed back to even with this game. Freddie was the better goalie. It has nothing to do with preference or bad decisions. Its just funny that people suggest Rod would play a worse goalie for kicks.

 

[hblueridgegal]

gonna miss ya boo and Pesce, too. Please land somewhere I can bear to watch.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Maybe 100 turnovers erin manning

 

[Brock Anton]

Necas can score 100 points all he wants (lol at him ever getting 100 tho), but that’s not going to change the fact that he’s a turnover machine. No “system” is going to change that.

 

[hblueridgegal]

humble pie

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I think Necas could find success if he simply changes his mindset and develops his game to that changed mindset.

He essentially has two moves:

- Skate wide, circle the net, try for a wraparound.
- Skate through, try and deke one defender, shoot for the corner

He needs to develop some upper body strength and edge work and combine the two.

- Skate wide, go AROUND the defender, then shoot for the corner.

With his speed, he’ll find much more success doing that than attempting to go through 3 or 4 defenders.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Necas had 53 points this year and he’s a 100 point scorer anywhere else?

 

[The Faulker 27]

I actually thought Necas had a great night. He had a few turnovers but nothing egregious. The thing that sucks is I felt like Necas was finally getting hot again in this series. I think he would have had some big games left in him...

100 points though? Wat. No. Maybe if he ended up somewhere void of defensive responsibilities and with an elite play making center to feed him perfect dishes all night. Even then he's gonna air mail the fast majority of them.

He rushes everything. It works out for him enough to be a good winger but if he has any patience to his game he could be a 100 pt player. Don't see that happening though. He's never been patient with any part of his game.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I actually thought Necas had a great night. He had a few turnovers but nothing egregious. The thing that sucks is I felt like Necas was finally getting hot again in this series. I think he would have had some big games left in him...

100 points though? Wat. No. Maybe if he ended up somewhere void of defensive responsibilities and with an elite play making center to feed him perfect dishes all night. Even then he's gonna air mail the fast majority of them.

He rushes everything. It works out for him enough to be a very good winger but if he has any patience to his game he could be a 100 pt player. Don't see that happening though. He's never been patient with any part of his game.

He would need a Karlsson type rushing defenseman opening up the defense through the neutral zone, and then dishing to Necas for his patented 100mph zone entry.

Of course, that’s not gonna happen if you want any sort of defensive coverage whatsoever.

 

[bleedgreen]

Staal playing essentially the 2C role in this game is as Rod a thing as you can see imo.

He needs that toy taken away from him. The players he loves and leans on the most aren’t good enough. The core of this team hasn’t been good enough to further really at any point. We’re a good team, not a great one. Well…we’re a great regular season team.

They need to learn from the mistakes they made with this build, and I wish I could think Rod would learn to evolve a bit. Not a lot of faith in that. I think he’s just going to keep going with the belief if he plays 12 Staal’s they’ll win playing the “right way”.

2C needs to get straightened out. I’d still focus on Lindy, he’s still the best option out there. I’d love it to be Kuzy but I don’t think Rod will ever trust him.

I’ll miss Necas and Pesce very much. More Pesce. I’ll be glad to see Necas get a fresh start and root for him. I’ll has a sad whenever I see Pesce in another uniform.

 

[The Faulker 27]

He would need a Karlsson type rushing defenseman opening up the defense through the neutral zone, and then dishing to Necas for his patented 100mph zone entry.

Of course, that’s not gonna happen if you want any sort of defensive coverage whatsoever.

100 mph to send it 1 foot over the top bar.

 

[hblueridgegal]

I think many of our forwards could hit much higher numbers elsewhere and have better productivity in an environment where offense was encouraged.

Staal playing essentially the 2C role in this game is as Rod a thing as you can see imo.

He needs that toy taken away from him. The players he loves and leans on the most aren’t good enough. The core of this team hasn’t been good enough to further really at any point. We’re a good team, not a great one. Well…we’re a great regular season team.

They need to learn from the mistakes they made with this build, and I wish I could think Rod would learn to evolve a bit. Not a lot of faith in that. I think he’s just going to keep going with the belief if he plays 12 Staal’s they’ll win playing the “right way”.

2C needs to get straightened out. I’d still focus on Lindy, he’s still the best option out there. I’d love it to be Kuzy but I don’t think Rod will ever trust him.

I’ll miss Necas and Pesce very much. More Pesce. I’ll be glad to see Necas get a fresh start and root for him. I’ll has a sad whenever I see Pesce in another uniform.

He call Drury the ideal Cane. Nothing against him but that's who the coach wants.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Goalies we’ve been eliminated by over the last 6 years:

Rask x2
Vasi
Bob
Igor x2

That’s a rough stretch for any team, let alone one that’s running with goalies of a tier or two lower than those players.

I think we’ve just got to hope PK can develop into a player of that caliber, because Freddie isn’t it, and we’re not going to find one in FA (if our past history is any indication)

 

[tarheelhockey]

Staal playing essentially the 2C role in this game is as Rod a thing as you can see imo.

He needs that toy taken away from him. The players he loves and leans on the most aren’t good enough. The core of this team hasn’t been good enough to further really at any point. We’re a good team, not a great one. Well…we’re a great regular season team.

They need to learn from the mistakes they made with this build, and I wish I could think Rod would learn to evolve a bit. Not a lot of faith in that. I think he’s just going to keep going with the belief if he plays 12 Staal’s they’ll win playing the “right way”.

2C needs to get straightened out. I’d still focus on Lindy, he’s still the best option out there. I’d love it to be Kuzy but I don’t think Rod will ever trust him.

I’ll miss Necas and Pesce very much. More Pesce. I’ll be glad to see Necas get a fresh start and root for him. I’ll has a sad whenever I see Pesce in another uniform.

At the same time, though, Rod can only play the players that he has. If the roster isn’t good enough, that’s not under his control. And not entirely under anyone’s control… in theory, Kotkaniemi was supposed to be that guy and he just isn’t. Kind of like in theory we’d have developed a #1 goalie by now but we just haven’t. That’s not on Rod or entirely on anyone in particular. Things fall out the way they do for reasons that are only partially controllable.

 

[bleedgreen]

At the same time, though, Rod can only play the players that he has. If the roster isn’t good enough, that’s not under his control.

I don’t disagree.

I think we went sideways a couple of years ago roster wise, and a reset is needed. I’m glad it seems some fresh blood is coming whether we like it or not. This group is feeling stale in some ways.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

The Staal criticism is silly. He’s there to prevent goals and his line did: he was on the ice for just 1 5v5 GA in the series/playoffs.

 

[bleedgreen]

I think many of our forwards could hit much higher numbers elsewhere and have better productivity in an environment where offense was encouraged.


He call Drury the ideal Cane. Nothing against him but that's who the coach wants.

He’s basically Staal jr. Not a great skater, not a great shooter, smart and sacrifices offense for for defense. All he needs is an ass the size of a moose and he could wear 11.

The Staal criticism is silly. He’s there to prevent goals and his line did: he was on the ice for just 1 5v5 GA in the series/playoffs.

I don’t criticize Staal. He’s exactly what I expect him to be every night. The coach using him the way he does is generally the issue for me, though I agree we didn’t give him better choices there.

We need a 2C.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

I don’t disagree.

I think we went sideways a couple of years ago roster wise, and a reset is needed. I’m glad it seems some fresh blood is coming whether we like it or not. This group is feeling stale in some ways.

And the good news is that the pieces that are working (Aho, Svech) we have signed long term and it sounds like (at last check) we’re making the other pieces that work (Jarvis and Guenztal) a priority to sign

Defense is getting an small overhaul due to UFAs, though I don’t think much will change there. Slavin will still be our #1, and unless he retires or this playoff REALLY opened some eyes in the higher ups, Burns will likely be next to him. Orlov is still around, likely to play the 2nd pairing we originally signed him to play, and I imagine Chatfield will be next to him. That leaves the bottom pairing, likely to be filled by a bruiser UFA and a rookie.

It’s the 2nd and 3rd line where there’s going to be the most movement, IMO. Necas and TT are up in the air, though I’d personally move on from both. Martinook will likely stick around, and I can’t find any reason against that. I imagine we’ll be trying Kuzy as the 2nd line center, for better or worse.

Ultimately though, what sunk us this year is the same thing that’s been sinking us: Special teams and goaltending. And while a lot of that is on the players, some of it is on the coaches and GM as well.