"Pure Goal Scorer" vs "Sniper"

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  1. MePutPuckInNet

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    What's the definition of a "pure goal scorer" and a "sniper". Are they the same? Is one somehow better than the other? Can you give an example of a player you consider a pure goal scorer but NOT a sniper? or a player you consider a sniper but NOT a pure goal scorer?

    We're having a huge debate on this issue today, so any and all comments would be welcome.
     
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    This is just my opinion, but here's how I see it:

    Pure goal-scorer: Someone who can score goals on a whim, through any means neccessary. Wristers, slappers, tips, snappers, backhanders, flukey odd-angle shots, pucks that bounce in off anything- seemingly everything goes in.

    Sniper: Someone who scores the majority of their goals on wristers/snapshots that find the smallest holes. This is not to say they can't crash the net and score. However, they are more of a finesse scorer than anything.

    I don't think one is better than the other... they just favour different styles of play.
     
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    Examples. Kovalchuk is a pure goal scorer. Hull is a sniper.

    I guess one way to put it is that I see a pure goal scorer doing most of the work with the puck, while a sniper does most of his work without the puck and would need a set-up man. Both need effective linemates, but the sniper to a greater degree. The goal scorer needs a player that can also be a threat to draw away defensive attention and the sniper needs someone to get him the puck.

    My opinion anyway.
     
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    so forsberg is pure goal scorer? :eek:
     
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    Sniper: Bondra

    Pure Goal Scorer: Shanahan
     
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    According to those definitions, then Kovalchuk would be a sniper. Lucky Luc Robitaille would be a pure goal-scorer. Steve Shutt would be a pure goal-scorer. Mike Bossy's a pure goal-scorer. Cam Neely was a sniper. Tim Kerr was a sniper. Michel Goulet was a pure goal-scorer. Reggie Leach was a sniper.
     
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    Pure goal scorer: Luc Robitaille
    Sniper: Milan Hejduk
     
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    I always thought a pure goal scorer was a guy who scored a lot of goals, rather than a guy who plays a defensive game, or a guy who sets up a lot of goals.

    A sniper I would consider someone who can "snipe", ie very accurate wrister/snapper sort of shot, as opposed to a guy who will just deke the pants off a goalie, or go to the backhand, or blast slappers from the point.

    That would mean that a pure goal scorer could also be a sniper, but so could a 2-way forward, or a playmaker, or whatever.
     
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    This is the understanding I had as well - sniper and pure goal scorer not being mutually exclusive.
     
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    Same thing to me.
     
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    If I understand correctly, I would say:

    Pure Goal Scorers: Pavel Bure, Ilya Kovalchuk, etc.
    Snipers: Brett Hull, Milan Hejduk, etc.
     
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    Yep.
     
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    I think Dino Ciccarelli epitomizes "pure goal scorer"

    Mike Bossy was a sniper.
     
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    Good call. Guys like Ciccarelli, Andreychuk, Robitaille, etc are "pure goal scorers" who have the ability to get their stick and everything else on the puck and put it in the net in bunches. To me, a sniper is a guy that possesses a bit more skill, and is able to bury the puck with more precision.
     
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    WHy the frick is this in the prospects thread?
     
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    SO this would be like Mike Bossy (pure goal scorer) vs. Pavel Bure (sniper)?
     
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    The term "pure goal scorer", kind of suggests the player is only an offensive threat... while "sniper" might qualify the kinds of goals the player scores.
     
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    Bossy was actually a bit of a sniper himself. I'll give you some examples:

    Sniper: Naslund
    Pure: Andreychuk
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    Sniper: Hejduk
    Pure: Shanahan
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    Sniper: Sakic
    Pure: Bertuzzi
     
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    A sniper requires a set up guy. A pure goal scorer does not.
     
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    Pure goal scorer is one who can score goals in various different ways, they just know how to find the net. They are allways in the right places and know how to finish plays.

    Sniper is one who scores the majority of their goals from the outside with a swrist/snap shot.

    Pure goal scorers : Guerin
    Sniper : Mogilny
     
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    Good explenation.

    Where would some prospects fit like Fehr? Goalscorer? or sniper?
     
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    Rick Nash can score goals in a fray or with a laser beam. Nash could be both a sniper and a pure goal scorer. They're not categories, just descriptive terms.
     
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    I too agree with Jason's explanation. I'm not so sure I'd consider Guerin a "pure goal-scorer", however.
     
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