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Pro Women's League with 2 new huge operational rules
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dirtydanglez
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Dumb and gimmicky. Kind of an indicment of the league honestly.
Cursed Lemon
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The problem of how to award the 1OA will never be solved.
BonMorrison
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lmao that didn't take long
95Tal
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For rule 2, wouldn't there be an incentive for a bottom-tier team to be mathematically eliminated as soon as possible? The tank would happen up the point of elimination in other words, in order to start accruing draft order points after that.
Theokritos
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Interesting. A year ago I asked what NHL fans thought of this idea. Should NHL teams get to pick their first-round opponent?
tarheelhockey
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I love that they’re taking an entrepreneurial approach instead of copycatting other leagues. Both of these ideas have been floated on HFBoards many, many times so it will be interesting to see how it plays out in a real life experiment.
Edenjung
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I like the second rule.
Thats actually a good way to avoid blantant tanking.
One could keep it seperate from the actual points table. But it could work.
Thats actually a good way to avoid blantant tanking.
One could keep it seperate from the actual points table. But it could work.
Rule 2 is terrible, it would be even worse in NHL though (the schedule would actually have an impact on the draft order).
Eh if anything, the women and their league are being used as guenia pigs here imo.
Like when pro leagues test things in the minors first.
I see it that way too. So say the Pens try to make the playoffs and lose on the last day to the Hawks, they don’t have more than one or zero games to accumulate points, while say the Ducks have been eliminated since March 1st, thus giving them 20 games to accumulate points.
This is terrible, worst than everything proposed on this board ever.
It is only a good rule in a single-division league; in NHL, it would be a disaster.
NYR94
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2nd rule is good. I've read Micah Blake McCurdy tweet about it...I think it's called gold drafting or something like that.
It's not a problem though. You do it based on standings. If you must institute some sort of safeguard, just make it so you can only draft 1st overall twice every 5 years ir something. If you bottom out more than that, you swap places with the #3, they move to #2, and they go to 1st.
But really, just do it on standings. If a couple of teams are truly horrible for decades at a time, so be it. Everyone else will still improve, like they do now, and go on to more success than the teams constantly duking it out for last every year. Eventually you'll see more young RFA's hold out for trades. Might even see more kids pull a Lindros. Which wouldn't even be bad because teams that are that horribly run deserve it, and the pressure it would garner would make or break. The fans would empathize with the players, no doubt.
Yes, I understand I'm an Oilers fan.
I know what I said.
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Recipe Unlimited
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There is an incentive for it, but it is not as good of an incentive as the current system of losing games for the whole season. Now you only want to tank for a shorter portion of the season (i.e. the time you realize you're not making the playoffs to the time you are mathematically eliminated). Also, the main action you'd make to tank (trade players away) has the consequence of making your team worse during the time you're accumulating draft points.
oXo Cube
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Any and all attempts to curb tanking in every professional sports league have failed to achieve their intended goal and succeeded in making the teams which need the most help stay bad for longer.
First rule is fine. It's dramatic but drama draws eyes.
First rule is fine. It's dramatic but drama draws eyes.
CantHaveTkachev
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Love it...should create some great games
hate it...this assumes players were intentionally "tanking" and will now try hard in games to get a #1 overall
sometimes, your team just sucks and has bad players
I think for the PWHL and the small pool of teams you can get away with both these rules.
For Rule 1, I'm of two conflicting thoughts -- 1. It gives incentive to finishing 1st overall; 2. It cheapens the regular season and its standings.
For Rule 2, same thing -- kind of cool yet lame at the same time. I think it could expedite blatant tanking more than dissuading it.
For Rule 1, I'm of two conflicting thoughts -- 1. It gives incentive to finishing 1st overall; 2. It cheapens the regular season and its standings.
For Rule 2, same thing -- kind of cool yet lame at the same time. I think it could expedite blatant tanking more than dissuading it.
ThatGuy22
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Nah, it would be fun.
Its a 6 team league, and 4 teams make the playoffs....
It's two teams fighting for 1st pick.
Ace Card Bedard
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Rule 2 sounds dumb to me.
It ensures that truly bad teams stay that way longer.
And a very good team with injuries for the first half of the season could end up drafting #1.
Imagine Colorado having Mackinnon, Makar, and Rantanan all injured and they get eliminated early. Then those players come back and they go on a run but still fall short of the playoffs.
Now give them Bedard.
It's dumb.
It ensures that truly bad teams stay that way longer.
And a very good team with injuries for the first half of the season could end up drafting #1.
Imagine Colorado having Mackinnon, Makar, and Rantanan all injured and they get eliminated early. Then those players come back and they go on a run but still fall short of the playoffs.
Now give them Bedard.
It's dumb.
ThatGuy22
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DGB covered the gold plan and all the arguments against it like 12 years ago. I tend to agree with him.
Would make the stretch run in the NHL very exciting.
Would make the stretch run in the NHL very exciting.
