One Winged Angel
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Czarnik and Mangiapane don’t do anything for the Rangers. It’s a conditional pick and a player who is a long shot of being a top-6 player one day.
I highly doubt you would make that deal if the roles were reversed.
McKenzie: Potential cost for Zuccarello: 2nd rounder and prospect
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Czarnik and Mangiapane don’t do anything for the Rangers. It’s a conditional pick and a player who is a long shot of being a top-6 player one day.
I highly doubt you would make that deal if the roles were reversed.
Zucc will return a better prospect than Mangiapane or Czarnik. I tend to be pretty conservative on what we’ll get for Zucc, but that’s still a low ball offer to me.
And Flames fans in this thread have said there’s no shot Zucc stays there long term, so why would those conditions mean anything to us? Would rather make it conditional on Calgary going to the finals - but I still don’t do that deal unless a better prospect is coming back.
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Shootertooter
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What is the sense of that if you can re sign him in July?
Trade him get assets, re sign him if you must.
Not moving him is bad asset management.
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98% of proposals here.
Playoff team offering a 2nd + prospect.
An almost 3rd Rd pick and their 3rd/4th best prospect.
What exactly is that supposed to benefit a rebuilding team for a 60pt player?
If your team is projected to be a final 8 team then your 1st Rd pick is nothing special. Understand? It's a cap shoot pick along with your 3rd best prospect who at best will be a bottoman 6 player or boom/bust AHL All Star.
This will be the worst rebuild ever if all NYR does is trade off valuable developed pieces to cup contenders for "maybes" who at their peak "could" be role players in 6 years.
Give me a break.
Playoff team offering a 2nd + prospect.
An almost 3rd Rd pick and their 3rd/4th best prospect.
What exactly is that supposed to benefit a rebuilding team for a 60pt player?
If your team is projected to be a final 8 team then your 1st Rd pick is nothing special. Understand? It's a cap shoot pick along with your 3rd best prospect who at best will be a bottoman 6 player or boom/bust AHL All Star.
This will be the worst rebuild ever if all NYR does is trade off valuable developed pieces to cup contenders for "maybes" who at their peak "could" be role players in 6 years.
Give me a break.
There was a confirmed trade post with zucc and pionk to oilers that initially wouldnt open and was then removed.....Did anyone else see that?
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UAGoalieGuy
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Ok.... I’m kind of new to posting on here I thought only moderators can put up a confirmed trade
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Irishguy42
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Yea you can't mess around with confirmed trade links. Yrs ago I thought it would be funny to post a confirmed with link thread using 1 of the hot trade rumors at the time. The link I put went to a laughing gif. I thought it was funny but I caught a 30 day ban. Moral of the story is don't play with the confirmed with link header
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Those Flames fans quite frankly aren't that bright. If we move Frolik at the draft we can afford to retain Zucc.
Also, you won't get better than a B Prospect at the deadline, top prospects simply don't get moved for rentals at the deadline. Usually when you hear a 2nd and a prospect or 1st and a prospect at the deadline, they are B and C level prospects. So, no you probably won't get much better than Mangiapane in terms of prospects and adding a 2nd and 3rd is better than the price McKenzie expects.
I would expect a lot of cap dumps and they don't have much value to trade. Plus I think Gretzky was quoted as saying he doesn't want rentals. Maybe Names and Pionk is a better fit.
Irishguy42
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Well you guys are rebuilding . So send those 3 players to Edmonton with 50% retained for Lucic , Manning , Benning and our 1st
Helps the tank .
See I can post things that are not remotely come to reality . The NYR have always been buyers . They just enter a rebuild . Every year Hank been in NY the team has tried to win .
One Winged Angel
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Excellent post. Couldn’t have said it better.
Fans of opposing teams are always throwing lowball offers out here and then they throw a fit when somebody calls their offers crap.
Gotta give to get.
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I know the difference between a 1st and a 2nd really bothers some NYR fans, and Zucc being such a fan favorite probably doesn't make it easier, but for me it's the prospect that makes or breaks this deal getting a 2nd.
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I agree, any first is going to be a rather late one, unless the Rangers look to move up packaging picks......a prospect already being developed is likely a better option for NY.
Well since Jan 15, Zucc has the 2nd highest amount of assists in the league with 14. He is playing some amazing hockey and I dont see Gorton letting him go on the cheap
Unsustainable
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