Proposal: Poll: Will Smith or trade 5th overall for Clayton Keller?

[26Mats]

For the scenario where Will Smith is available at 5 and Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, and Michkov go 1 through 4...


Will Smith or trade 5th overall for Clayton Keller?

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[waitin425]

Will Smith for his 3 year ELC.

 

[the]

Give me the Russian player.

 

[26Mats]

Give me the Russian player.

If he's gone by 5?

 

[River Meadow]

Keller is gonna be 25 in July, and should command $$$.

Are we competing soon?

 

[Adam Michaels]

Real good conundrum. Because Keller might be one of the few players I would move the 5th pick for.

Keller is gonna be 25 in July, and should command $$$.

Are we competing soon?

Keller is still under contract for another 5 years @ $7.15M

 

[River Meadow]

Real good conundrum. Because Keller might be one of the few players I would move the 5th pick for.




Keller is still under contract for another 5 years @ $7.15M

Let's do it.

What's Nathan Gerbe up to nowadays?

We can build the smallest team in the NHL. : D

 

[26Mats]

Keller is gonna be 25 in July, and should command $$$.

Are we competing soon?

Yep, he's the same age as Dubois, and 1 year older than Suzuki. May fit our core, and accelerate the rebuild.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Keller will turn 25 this summer, he fits in well the roster with his age but what's going the other way as well to make space with his contract. That's why a Smith makes sense, we could definitely use those 3 years of ELC

 

[the]

If he's gone by 5?

I'll gamble with Smith. I just feel we have too many pieces missing yet to compete and would like to add more prospects to our pool of players.

 

[26Mats]

Let's do it.

What's Nathan Gerbe up to nowadays?

We can build the smallest team in the NHL. : D

Keller is 5'10, the same height as Bedard and Michkov.

 

[River Meadow]

I'll gamble with Smith. I just feel we have too many pieces missing yet to compete and would like to add more prospects to our pool of players.

I concur 100%

 

[Adam Michaels]

Yep, he's the same age as Dubois, and 1 year older than Suzuki. May fit our core, and accelerate the rebuild.

Yup. Much like PLD, he will turn 25. Suzuki will turn 24 in August. Dach & Caufield will turn 23 in January. That is around the age group of the core they could build with.

 

[26Mats]

Keller will turn 25 this summer, he fits in well the roster with his age but what's going the other way as well to make space with his contract. That's why a Smith makes sense, we could definitely use those 3 years of ELC

Yeah, would make the deal interesting if Arizona would take Armia, Hoffman, or imagine Gallagher.

 

[Vachon23]

Will Smith for his 3 year ELC.

This !

I would be more interested in Logan Cooley

 

[River Meadow]

Keller is 5'10, the same height as Bedard and Michkov.

Yes but he also costs 7 million dollars a year, to start.

When will a player like him start to decline, at 30?

When will we contend? in 4-5 years?

IMO it doesn't make sense to accelerate the rebuild like this.

The cap matters, a lot.

 

[26Mats]

I'll gamble with Smith. I just feel we have too many pieces missing yet to compete and would like to add more prospects to our pool of players.

Makes sense. What if we also add Dubois? Is that enough to compete?

I also would like to add a real elite game breaker during this rebuild, which is why I'm willing to five up a lot to move up to 3 to get Michkov.

 

[River Meadow]

Makes sense. What if we also add Dubois? Is that enough to compete?

I also would like to add a real elite game breaker during this rebuild, which is why I'm willing to five up a lot to move up to 3 to get Michkov.

Yes, Dubois is a big strong, tall, Center de chez nous.

He automatically makes us a contender.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Yeah, would make the deal interesting if Arizona would take Armia, Hoffman, or imagine Gallagher.

Gallagher or Armia would be my choice to send the other way

Hoffman has 1 year left, we can move him at the TD next season and if we can't like Drouin, he can simply walk next summer..

 

[Vachon23]

Makes sense. What if we also add Dubois? Is that enough to compete?

I also would like to add a real elite game breaker during this rebuild, which is why I'm willing to five up a lot to move up to 3 to get Michkov.

On offence yes, that could be a solid top 6:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Smith


but where still missing a #1 Dmen and #1 goalie

 

[Deebs]

Keller is a very good player with 5-6 years left on his friendly deal. It is enticing, I guess it just depends what all is going the other way because it would be substantial.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Yes but he also costs 7 million dollars a year, to start.

When will a player like him start to decline, at 30?

When will we contend? in 4-5 years?

IMO it doesn't make sense to accelerate the rebuild like this.

The cap matters, a lot.

He just put up 86 pts with the Coyotes, he would be making closer to 9-10 in a different market

 

[26Mats]

On offence yes, that could be a solid top 6:

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Dubois - Dach - Smith


but where still missing a #1 Dmen and #1 goalie

Well it would be keller instead of Smith...

Number 1 dman and #1 goalie would he next on the to do list.

Is signing Orlov enough when you already have Guhle, Mailloux, Matheson, and Mailloux in the system. But in goal Adin Hill about to win a cup after Darcy Kemper did last year

 

[Adam Michaels]

I'll gamble with Smith. I just feel we have too many pieces missing yet to compete and would like to add more prospects to our pool of players.

I don't disagree. And Smith is definitely someone I'd go with. I'd even go with a Leonard and Reinbacher. But at some point, you have to start building the NHL team while your prospects develop. Even if you won't make the playoffs next year, you still need to progress.

But for the purpose of this thread, Keller is one of the few players I'd move the 5th pick for. He just had a career year and was over a PPG player (86 pts in 82 GP). Even last year, he was on pace for over 80 pts (had 63 pts in 67 GP). And he wouldn't be a rental. You still have him until 2027-28. And he makes less than both Suzuki and Caufield.

I doubt Yotes move him. But IF he was ever made available. I think I'd give the 5th pick for him. I could fantasize about a Caufield-Suzuki duo on one line and a Dach-Keller duo on the other.

 

[Vachon23]

Well it would be keller instead of Smith...

Number 1 dman and #1 goalie would he next on the to do list.

Is signing Orlov enough when you already have Guhle, Mailloux, Matheson, and Mailloux in the system. But in goal Adin Hill about to win a cup after Darcy Kemper did last year

We won't money to sign them all, I prefer keeping Smith and put money elsewhere.

They are no special recipe to build a winning team (except that you need at least a #1C and #1D). We won't have a franchise player to build around, so if we want to win, we will need a super complete team with no major hole.