*POLL* Eliminate me!Im a baaad team!

Discussion in 'The Business of Hockey' started by ifesfor*, Nov 10, 2004.

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  1. ifesfor*

    ifesfor* Guest

    Yeaaah thats right.Me, the team you think that poison the NHL, vote for me!

    Some team got wild carded:

    Original 6:Boston,Chicago,Detroit,Rangers,Montreal,Toronto
    US team in good health: Philadelphia,Tampa, Colorado, LosAngeles,Dallas
    Canadian team we want to keep:Edmonton,Calgary,Vancouver,Ottawa,

    The rest is....IN THE POLL! So go vote now!!!
     
  2. thinkwild

    thinkwild Veni Vidi Toga

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    Too late for Tampa Bay. We already overwhelmingly voted to contract them last year before they won the cup, because as we all knew, they had no chance of winning the cup.

    No one is going to go about eliminating anybody. If they cant make money, they sell the team like owners in the NFL do, and try somewhere else, or fold up and wait to try again another day like Colorado. Owners may lose their money like any normal businessman investing in a restaurant and failing would. Or they adapt and find a way to make money and plan long term.

    But no one is kicking anyone out. Who could afford it?
     
  3. sparkle twin

    sparkle twin Throw the Catfish

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    Right on schedule. It's been what, 2-3 weeks since the last "lets contract a team that doesn't fit in with my ideal hockey world" thread?

    None should be contracted. If the owners are losing so much money now, none of them are going to be willing to absorb the cost of buying and folding a team.
     
  4. HughJass*

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    Like I said before, I don't know why threads like this is tolerated. I'll do say this: the last thread like this was very controlled and decent until one pubescent screwed it up for everyone.

    Still, I will never understand why people in the hockey world (fans & players alike) think that there are no fans in the cities they want to contract. That's just to show you people don't care about fans, they just care about themselves. Contracting team will not help the league, only hurt it.

    They would expand again eventually anyway. Short term contraction won't solve anything, because fixing the leagues problems can't be solved overnight. And, to top that all off, contraction will give the league a black eye. People in the contracted cities will talk badly about the league to everyone they meet, and people who don't even know what "N-H-L" stand for would not bother finding out what it stands for.
     
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    Let's start a contract the poster poll too.


    On the top of the list, anyone who has started a contraction poll, followed by half the leafs fans.
     
  6. Safir*

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    It's was rumored that the following teams had suffered losses:

    - Tampa Bay: has won the Cup and maybe be able to overcome the financial issues.

    - Chicago: remove Wirtz and the overall ownership and the club will rebound.

    - Buffalo: those losses may result from the near bankruptcy of last season

    - Pittsburgh: They need a new arena fast. The future looks very bright for the team.

    - Nashville: Expansion in a new market. They play a typical Western style of hockey and relay heavily on the draft. Have done a good job in the department, since many youngster made there way to the NHL.

    - Carolina: relocated to Carolina from Hartford.
     
  7. X0ssbar

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    Right on.
     
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    Why should any team get "wild carded" ?

    I'd be surprised if 3 of the teams you listed as US teams in good health were profitable over the last two seasons.
     
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    Minnesota? They're probably in better shape than everyone you list here.
     
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    I agree , silly topic , but to play just the same .

    I think contraction is out of the question .However , I bet theres an NHL team in Winnipeg if and when a cap / cost certainty is in place .

    All depends on teams with Arena issues (Pens )or possibly weak market (Anaheim is my only uneducated guess here)who might bite if it makes sense .

    if it was ok with Bettman as commish to move the Nords and Jets during the 90's; then he better not get in the way if a current U.S based team ever wants to move to Winnipeg or Quebec City for that matter if their fortunes would improve .

    while I'm at it , why the heck isnt there a second NHL team in the GTA ?

    surely if the isles,rangers,devils can play within 50 miles of eachother the city of Toronto could support a second team ? Imagine that ? To me it would be similar to the rangers - isles situation . Corporate suits go see the Leafs while the new expansion team gets the avg. Joe into the mend .
     
  11. Sorry --- no team gets "wild-carded" here.

    Montreal.
     
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    For the last time, Winnipeg is too small for the NHL , and no CBA will help them.

    Ottawa, the 4th smallest market in the league, is approx. 1.2 in the metro area. That is good enough for a pro team, IMO, but winnipeg is only 55% of the size of Ottawa... they are a tad too small. I think any market must be at or over a million (Edmonton and Calgary should be there soon, IMO) to support a pro team.
     
  13. se7en*

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    Edmonton & Calgary both have metro pops. of over 1,000,000 and have been supporting their teams since the early 80s when they had 6-700,000. Having over a 1,000,000 pop. to have a pro team in your city isnt necessary.
     
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    Last I saw, Edmonton was at 932,000 and Calgary at 952000 as of 2001 although I concede they are probably just at 1,000 nowadays, assuming an approximate 20,000 person increase per year, which seems to be the norm in Ottawa...
     
  15. se7en*

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    Calgarys had a CMA of over 1,000,000 since 2001 I think. Edmonton just got over a million recently. :)
     
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    If you want to compete it is.

    It's not just 18,000 people to fill the building you need. It's business will to spend big $$$ on luxury suites, and local TV and radio revenue etc. etc. etc.
     
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    By a long shot... they are the most profitable team in the NHL!
     
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    CONTRACT CONTRACTION POLLS
     
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