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Dubois has 6 points in 9 games and adds a physical presence that no one else in our top 6 sans Wheeler provides.
Why people are down on this guy I don't understand.
Well said. Excellent description of what is.I posted this in the game day thread but it is pretty relevant here:
PLD is used to being the player lugging the puck and making things happen all over the ice as that was his role in Columbus. He had the puck a lot and he did a lot of things on his own. He is now on a team with a bunch of talent and he is trying to alter his game to fit around that talent.
On his current line he is playing with Ehlers and Conner, two players that love the puck on their stick in the offensive end and love lugging it around. There is only one puck to go around and its hard to have a line with three players trying to lug it around all the time. He is now trying move from playing the puck rushing game that he played in Columbus to a more positional give and go/support offensive game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to do what they do well there. If you watch closely he puts himself into good positions in the offensive end and has made some good reads and has had some great chances in tight on that line. He is still learning to read off of both players and sometimes is caught between decisions but he will figure things out with more reps.
If people are looking for him to carry the puck a lot then they will be waiting a while for that as that isn't what that line needs. He is morphing his game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to play to their offensive strengths. Having said that Conner and Ehlers need to do a better job finding him in the offensive end, he's often open and ready to shoot or to provide an outlet when one of the two is pressured. I am sure that will also come with more reps.
Is pld an overpay when what we needed was a Danault? A d first centre who can play the support role offensively but doesn’t need to be a driver?I posted this in the game day thread but it is pretty relevant here:
PLD is used to being the player lugging the puck and making things happen all over the ice as that was his role in Columbus. He had the puck a lot and he did a lot of things on his own. He is now on a team with a bunch of talent and he is trying to alter his game to fit around that talent.
On his current line he is playing with Ehlers and Conner, two players that love the puck on their stick in the offensive end and love lugging it around. There is only one puck to go around and its hard to have a line with three players trying to lug it around all the time. He is now trying move from playing the puck rushing game that he played in Columbus to a more positional give and go/support offensive game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to do what they do well there. If you watch closely he puts himself into good positions in the offensive end and has made some good reads and has had some great chances in tight on that line. He is still learning to read off of both players and sometimes is caught between decisions but he will figure things out with more reps.
If people are looking for him to carry the puck a lot then they will be waiting a while for that as that isn't what that line needs. He is morphing his game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to play to their offensive strengths. Having said that Conner and Ehlers need to do a better job finding him in the offensive end, he's often open and ready to shoot or to provide an outlet when one of the two is pressured. I am sure that will also come with more reps.
I love him as a player, also adds a greater defensive presence. He’s exactly what we need and he’s not even fully set in with our systems or chemistry with line mates
Is pld an overpay when what we needed was a Danault? A d first centre who can play the support role offensively but doesn’t need to be a driver?
Yea but ehlers is already doing the heavy lifting offensively you can use a d first centre who will cost much less than pld will.Habs fan rag on Danault constantly this year if you read their GDT and post game threads.......they seem to be only too happy to see him leave. He's a defensive 3C.......with poor offensive game
Is pld an overpay when what we needed was a Danault? A d first centre who can play the support role offensively but doesn’t need to be a driver?
That doesn’t sound like a driver that sounds like a finisher like kc. I imagine if ehlers moves up kc drives the offence.I think once he gets comfortable he will be a driver, he will just do it in a different way then how he did it in Columbus. I mean on Toronto both Tavaras and Mathews tend to let their wingers in Marner/Nylander lug the puck most of the time as well. What they do is they get open, assert themselves into the play when needed and finish the play off.
Also we can always alter the lineup to move Ehlers up and then you will need Dubois to do the heavy lifting.
Yea but ehlers is already doing the heavy lifting offensively you can use a d first centre who will cost much less than pld will.
Watch Danualt play, he kills most offensive plays for his team when he's on the ice.......the guy is a offensive black hole.
Jets needs PLD to be that phyiscal, two way big body centre who can score 55-65 points.........that's what the Jets need. Assuming PLD delivers that, he will be a grand slam win for the Jets.
I posted this in the game day thread but it is pretty relevant here:
PLD is used to being the player lugging the puck and making things happen all over the ice as that was his role in Columbus. He had the puck a lot and he did a lot of things on his own. He is now on a team with a bunch of talent and he is trying to alter his game to fit around that talent.
On his current line he is playing with Ehlers and Conner, two players that love the puck on their stick in the offensive end and love lugging it around. There is only one puck to go around and its hard to have a line with three players trying to lug it around all the time. He is now trying move from playing the puck rushing game that he played in Columbus to a more positional give and go/support offensive game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to do what they do well there. If you watch closely he puts himself into good positions in the offensive end and has made some good reads and has had some great chances in tight on that line. He is still learning to read off of both players and sometimes is caught between decisions but he will figure things out with more reps.
If people are looking for him to carry the puck a lot then they will be waiting a while for that as that isn't what that line needs. He is morphing his game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to play to their offensive strengths. Having said that Conner and Ehlers need to do a better job finding him in the offensive end, he's often open and ready to shoot or to provide an outlet when one of the two is pressured. I am sure that will also come with more reps.
I posted this in the game day thread but it is pretty relevant here:
PLD is used to being the player lugging the puck and making things happen all over the ice as that was his role in Columbus. He had the puck a lot and he did a lot of things on his own. He is now on a team with a bunch of talent and he is trying to alter his game to fit around that talent.
On his current line he is playing with Ehlers and Conner, two players that love the puck on their stick in the offensive end and love lugging it around. There is only one puck to go around and its hard to have a line with three players trying to lug it around all the time. He is now trying move from playing the puck rushing game that he played in Columbus to a more positional give and go/support offensive game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to do what they do well there. If you watch closely he puts himself into good positions in the offensive end and has made some good reads and has had some great chances in tight on that line. He is still learning to read off of both players and sometimes is caught between decisions but he will figure things out with more reps.
If people are looking for him to carry the puck a lot then they will be waiting a while for that as that isn't what that line needs. He is morphing his game so that Ehlers and Conner can continue to play to their offensive strengths. Having said that Conner and Ehlers need to do a better job finding him in the offensive end, he's often open and ready to shoot or to provide an outlet when one of the two is pressured. I am sure that will also come with more reps.
He was only the puck carrier on his line last season. Prior to that he had a lot of success playing with Panarin who loves to have the puck on his stick, even more than Ehlers.
I am satisfied with the play of that line and of Dubois... yeah he's not lighting the world on fire with points but his underlying metrics have been solid since he moved back to C on the 2nd line and he is getting a good solid 2-3 shots on net a night which is good. He's probably not gonna put up as many points and goals as Laine but with Scheifele on the team there isn't pressure on him to be PPG centerman.
As long as he accepts a team friendly contract the way schief did.What I have taken away watching him is he tends to be in the right position on the ice. Playing with Ehlers and Connor, teams will tend to force the play to Connor's side on break outs because he is weak at it and PLD is really supporting that side of the ice when he can. Ehlers is really good at moving the puck out either by skating it out or passing it out but Connor struggles with D pressure.
Remove the Montreal game and that line is starting not only to move the puck out but get chances on the offensive side. Connor had a nice goal last night and I expect to see them get more offense as the season goes as they get the easier matchups.
In the offensive zone PLD uses his size and reach to great effectiveness and if things are not going his way offensively he will dish out punishing body checks.
Is he as good offensively as Schief? Likely not but he might be much better defensively so its a trade off and nice one to have as a 2nd option