Players who never made it?

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  1. KOVALEV10*

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    Which player or players would you say had the potential to be really good or great players but never made it?
     
  2. Ronnie Bass

    Ronnie Bass elite pissy upside

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    When you say "never made it", do you mean never played in the NHL or never was considered a good player despite their potential?
     
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    I meant a player who had lots of potential and hype coming into the nhl but never became a great player.
     
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    Alexandre Daigle fits that bill. He was a major bust, although he is actually starting to play some good hockey now. He had as much hype around him then as Sidney Crosby is getting now.
     
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    Pat Falloon, Alex daigle, Doug Wickenheiser, Martin Skoula :lol
     
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    MeatTornado I was born ready

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    Daniel Cleary, Daigle, Gratton, Brett Lindros?
     
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    Turner Stevenson was a first round pick but now he's a 4th line winger.
     
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    whats with jason dawe and patrick poulin...
     
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    Bryan Fogerty. Shattered Orr's scoring records in junior.
     
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    Dan cleary is definitely the one that baffles me the most.
    he posts 81 pts in 62 games in the OHL as a 15 year old!!!
    he then finishes 2nd in scoring in the O as a 16year old!!! By all rights he should have been an all-star player by now. What happened?
     
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    I'd give Lindros a pass on this one... he probably could've fulfilled his potential if he didn't have to retire early because of his concussions.
     
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    I know where your coming from but at the same time I would have to say he has made it as a NHL hockey player, when the Devils won the cup in 2003 he was a BIG part of that run even if he was hurt in the finals. He has limited offenive skills but what he has he has utilized to their potential, sometimes you can't blame a player for getting drafted as high as they did and he's a prime example of that. Just because the Habs mistakenly thought he had the potential to be a great or even very good player doesn't mean that he did.
     
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    I have no problem with Stevenson but I think that he could of been better. But I know he was a big part of the last Cup the Devils won. I saw him play against Ottawa and he played very well. He's been a realy effective player and had a nice career overall.
     
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    i'll go by 1st round picks who underachieved up until now, starting at 1999, cause you have to factor some development time into the equation

    1999 - Patrick Stefan, Pavel Brendl, Brian Finley
    1998 - Manny Malhotra, Rico Fata
    1997 - Dan Tzachuk, JF Damphousse, Matt Zultek, Dan Cleary
    1996 - Boyd Deveraux, Dan Focht
    1995 - chad kilger, aki berg
    1994 - Jason Boterill, Chris Dingman, Brett Lindros, Eric Fichaud, Jamie Storr, Jason Bonsignor
    1993 - Alexandre Daigle, Todd Harvey

    some guys i see becoming disappointments, or at least not living up to expectations

    2000 - Jeff Taeffe, Krys Kolanos, Raffi Torres
    2001 - Alexander Svitov, Carlo Colaiacovo, RJ Umberger, Jason Bacashihua
    2002 - Jakob Koreis, Dan Paille, Martin Vagner, Scott Upshall
    2003 - Braydon Coburn, Steve Bernier, Marc-Antoine Pouliot
    2004 - Evgeny Malkin, Andrew Ladd, Al Montoya, Alexandre Picard, Rob Schremp

    ok let me have it :)
     
  15. espo*

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    Yeah,what a shame about him,he could have been a really good player.
     
  16. Wetcoaster

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    Greg Joly, No. 1 over-all by Washington in 1974
    Gord Kluzak No. 1 over-all by Boston in 1982
    Brian Lawton No. 1 over-all by Minnesota in 1983 (Yzerman was picked No. 4 that year)
    Patrik Stefan No. 1 over-all by Atlanta in 1999 (the next three did not live up to their hype as well being the Sedin sisters and Pavel Brendl)
     
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    I figure by the smilie you're joking about Skoula, but regardless. He was solid for Anaheim, change of scenary did him well. A + player on a very weak 03-04 team.
     
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    The Preds had two guys recently(2002-03) that I could scarcely believe were former first rounders...Todd Warriner and Denis Pederson.

    As for recent...

    2005- Sidney Crosby

    ;)

    I keed, I keed...
     
  19. No Quarter*

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    What about Chris Phillips?
     
  20. No Quarter*

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    I'm not letting you have it but why do you think Malkin is not gonna live up to expectations?
     
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    Anna Kournikova!!!

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    Yeah, Fogarty comes to mind first. He even put up some pretty good short-term numbers, but he could have been one of the best. Terrible story, personally and professionally.
     
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    Daniel Dore, what a talent in juniors, Craig hillier, robert dome, Chris Wells
     
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    Fogerty, Daigle, Clearly all come to mind.
     
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    As for me, the biggest name that comes to mind is Ryan Sittler.

    Taken #7 overall by the Flyers in 1992, played a total of about a full season in the AHL and a handful of ECHL games and just gave it up in 1998-99. Never played 1 game in the show.

    Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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    1992-93 U. of Michigan NCAA 35 9 24 33 43
    1993-94 U. of Michigan NCAA 26 9 9 18 14
    1994-95 Johnstown Chiefs ECHL 1 1 1 2 0 -- -- -- -- --
    1994-95 Hershey Bears AHL 42 2 7 9 48 -- -- -- -- --
    1995-96 Raleigh Icecaps ECHL 12 2 8 10 8 -- -- -- -- --
    1995-96 Mobile Mysticks ECHL 21 3 11 14 30 -- -- -- -- --
    1995-96 Hershey Bears AHL 7 0 1 1 6 -- -- -- -- --
    1995-96 St. John's Maple Leafs AHL 6 1 2 3 18 4 0 0 0 4
    1996-97 Baltimore Bandits AHL 66 4 22 26 167 3 1 0 1 0
    1997-98 South Carolina Stingra ECHL 44 12 15 27 66 4 0 0 0 8
    1998-99 Charlotte Checkers ECHL 33 3 9 12 112
     
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