GDT: "Play it again, Sam" - Canesablanca - Pittsburgh Penguins @ Carolina Hurricanes

[Carolinas Identity*]

Most certainly, you need to see an exorcist immediately.

There was this Sophomore girl from Virginia I met at ECU when I was a Junior, who was possessed by a poltergasm one nite.

I had to save her with a sexorcism.

 

[Thehair17]

There was this Sophomore girl from Virginia I met at ECU when I was a Junior, who was possessed by a poltergasm one nite.

I had to save her with a sexorcism.

Not quite what I was going for, but if you're willing.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Eeeeeeeeasy there big guy. There's good reasons for it, in both cities. Ottawa? Cuz they're an expansion team from the early 90s. Tons of residual Habs and Leafs fans from before expansion.

Raleigh is the home of the relocated northerners, as you know.

Exactly right. Which means that you're waiting for all of them to die.

Or maybe you should be more proactive than that.

You know what to do.

 

[Oenatzu]

The lady behind the penalty box holding up the Jordan Staal picture when penalties are called is beyond weird.

I bet that's the same weird lady who posted that creepy ice bucket challenge video with all the player pictures at her pool.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Exactly right. Which means that you're waiting for all of them to die.

Or maybe you should be more proactive than that.

You know what to do.

When I was young, I, ummmm, I kinda took matters into my own hands. It was a one time thing.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

When I was young, I, ummmm, I kinda took matters into my own hands. It was a one time thing.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

 

[DaveG]

suffering leads to beer. Beer leads to a highly questionable paternity suit but the possibility still exists as you have absolutely no recollection of that night.

 

[What the Faulk]

Speaking of arena stuff, just over 11k on a Saturday against the Penguins.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Speaking of arena stuff, just over 11k on a Saturday against the Penguins.

You are sh*tting me.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Speaking of arena stuff, just over 11k on a Saturday against the Penguins.

rip.

 

[Joe McGrath]

8th best powerplay, still terrible team. #shocked

i hope this means we can finally start talking about what an awful 5-on-5 team this is every single year ever

i imagine that it would get talked about more if, every time the play went back to even strength, john would say something like "and the hurricanes have the 27th-best 5-on-5 goal differential the league, they are X at home and X at away. oh and btw they were 24th last year lol."

one of the major failings of hockey commentating and reporting in general. there's an obsession over stats like faceoffs, pp and pk%, shootouts, hits, blocked shots, the hometown and junior team of every player on the team, the speed of the zamboni, etc, but nobody bats an eye when a team is getting beat to a bloody pulp at even strength for a full decade.

When did a decade start meaning 34 years?

 

[Anton Babchuk]

5-on-5 goal differential ranking

97-98: 20th
98-99: 20th
99-00: 18th
00-01: 19th
01-02: 18th
02-03: 28th
03-04: 21st
05-06: 12th
06-07: 21st
07-08: 8th
08-09: 16th
09-10: 24th
10-11: 19th
11-12: 27th
12-13: 26th
13-14: 24th

lol

gotta fix the powerplay tho, amirite?

 

[What the Faulk]

Again 07-08 comes out looking better than the 9th place finish they ended up in. If only they beat Florida...

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Again 07-08 comes out looking better than the 9th place finish they ended up in. If only they beat Florida...

they had a good PP that year, too.

too bad that season was cam ward-ed.

 

[Quacktastic]

Speaking of arena stuff, just over 11k on a Saturday against the Penguins.

Meh, good chance a lot of folks were still out of town/traveling for Thanksgiving

 

[Ole Gil]

Meh, good chance a lot of folks were still out of town/traveling for Thanksgiving

A better chance people just don't want to pay to go watch this team play hockey.

 

[What the Faulk]

Maybe it wasn't so bad?

MikeSundheim
@jbk_ltd No idea how that happened. Attendance was 16,225. The NHL scorers got it wrong on the sheet.

Should be easy to confirm for whoever was there. A 5k difference is pretty easily noticeable.

 

[The Stranger]

5-on-5 goal differential ranking

97-98: 20th
98-99: 20th
99-00: 18th
00-01: 19th
01-02: 18th
02-03: 28th
03-04: 21st
05-06: 12th
06-07: 21st
07-08: 8th
08-09: 16th
09-10: 24th
10-11: 19th
11-12: 27th
12-13: 26th
13-14: 24th

lol

gotta fix the powerplay tho, amirite?

If you look at 13-14, the Canes 5v5 goal differential was -14 over the season. This is in a data set that varies from -69 to +65 with an average of 0 and a stdev of 28.6. (Data slightly different between nhl.com and stats.hockeyanalysis.com)

The 13-14 Canes 5v4 goal differential was 25 over the season. This is in a data set that varies from 17 to 57 with an average of 36.9 and a stdev of 8.2.

The PP would get a lower grade than ES last year. ES would maybe get a C-/D+ and PP would get a F.

This year PP has improved quite a bit but ES is poor. With the PP performing well, I hope Peters will improve the ES numbers going forward.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

right, but a team spends far more time at even strength than it does on the pp. the hurricanes are averaging just under 6 minutes of PP time/game this season.

i think a team being a C-/D+ at something that they are spending around 50 minutes a game on is more relevant than being an F at something they are doing for 6.

it's bizarre how little this gets discussed. like the ratio has to somewhere around 10000:1 in terms of PP:ES. i'm not even joking. it's that bad. there seems to be an obsession amongst fans and media to mercilessly abuse certain stats while ignoring the bigger picture. a few years ago faceoffs were a major issue to be discussed. it was solved and predictably it didn't change anything since the team had a major issue of sucking horrendously when the puck was in play (and faceoffs are wildly overrated anyway). then it was the powerplay. since that has been at least momentarily fixed, it will now be the shootout. just wait until this team's next shootout loss. it will be weeks before people stop talking about how we've missed the playoffs by a few points so many times and it's all because of the shootout. or wait until the next time one of our players gets hurt on a questionable hit. do we need an enforcer? more team toughness? why didn't we dress brad malone so he could grit and leadership?

those numbers are just staggering and it's puzzling how nobody seems to care. they are more interested in chipping away at areas of relatively minor concern while ignoring a major one. is it because most don't really want to admit that this is team is atrocious and needs years and years before it can be fixed...and that they'd rather believe that all they need to do is score a few more shootout and PP goals to somehow squeak into the 8th seed?

and why do i type in all lowercase? god that **** is annoying

 

[Elsker]

Maybe it wasn't so bad?

MikeSundheim
@jbk_ltd No idea how that happened. Attendance was 16,225. The NHL scorers got it wrong on the sheet.

Should be easy to confirm for whoever was there. A 5k difference is pretty easily noticeable.

*raise of the hand* 13-season STH here with basically Forslund's view of the arena.

Definitely more than 15K in the building last night. No way the reported 11,225 was correct. 16,225 sounds more like it.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

*raise of the hand* 13-season STH here with basically Forslund's view of the arena.

Definitely more than 15K in the building last night. No way the reported 11,225 was correct. 16,225 sounds more like it.

Ok this is good. 11k was making me question things.

 

[Wolfpuck]

Maybe it wasn't so bad?

MikeSundheim
@jbk_ltd No idea how that happened. Attendance was 16,225. The NHL scorers got it wrong on the sheet.

Should be easy to confirm for whoever was there. A 5k difference is pretty easily noticeable.

I'd say it was closer to 16k than 11k.

Although a good 8,000 of them were Penguins fans.

 

[HisIceness]

Again 07-08 comes out looking better than the 9th place finish they ended up in. If only they beat Florida...

That loss is still stinging this team I think in some ways.

 

[Carolinas Identity*]

That loss is still stinging this team I think in some ways.

As is the "Win and You're In" game against Tampa Bay in Skinner's rookie season.