Post-Game Talk: Pens vs Isles: Its over

[Gurglesons]

Nah. Hextall's teams had our stars a bit younger who carried the team. But we had been easily a playoff team this year if we had at least league average powerplay. That's on coaching.

Dubas can fire the coach.

 

[farscape1]

So whats up with Jarry anyway? Is he hurt? I dont see why you would not play him.

 

[66-30-33]

I'm always excited for the playoffs, no matter if the Pens are out.

Greatest trophy to compete for and the greatest 2 months in sports.

The REAL season is about to begin. It's going to be great! Watching the Pens in the playoffs I'd probably hang myself...playoffs are about the inches.

 

[orby]

Silver linings:

-Crosby had a great season and odds are he'll be singing one last extension this summer. He's got a few years left in him and we may see him pass Jagr's playoff scoring mark if the team plays its cards right.

-Early outlook on the Guentzel trade is positive. Bunting looks like a fit. He's scoring and bringing an element of legitimate grit that this team has lacked for several seasons, and the grab bag of prospects is intriguing.

Aaaaand...uh.... that's all I got.

 

[Pancakes]

There is nothing to base this claim on.

Rierden was in control of the powerplay and it sucked. There's no proof out there that Sullivan was telling him to not make changes to the powerplay because "they'll figure it out".

There's literally quotes from Mike Sullivan about not wanting to overcoach the PP. He's said it repeatedly in his time here.

Nothing will change as long he's here.

They've changed his assistant coaches. They've changed the roster. They've changed GMs.

Same issues still

 

[Jacob]

Hershey has had one of the best PPs in the AHL the last 2 years under Todd Nelson, and way back when he coached Grand Rapids to a championship they were ranked #1 then too. I do not see much about Hershey’s PP that I can point to that makes it good but change is needed, obviously. With or without Sullivan he might be a good assistant to run the PP/D.

He’s probably on some teams radars for a head coaching spot though.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Live look in at Todd Reirden.

 

[Darren McCord]

And still did better than Dubas.

Amazing work.

Nah they are both awful but hextall should have fired Mike before his extension.

Hextall is the reason Sullivan became a god

 

[MrBrightside]

Not sure how they can run it back with Jarry after the way it ended:

Pickett:Rudolph::Jarry:Ned

It's over for TJ here.

 

[Big Poppa Pump]

Dubas can fire the coach.

Only if FSG says so....

 

[Will Hunting]

Goaltending, fixing the powerplay, bottom six, getting rid of Reirden, Carter (actually he was better than last year, enjoy the retirement), R.Smith, Graves and probably Jarry. Maybe Rakell. Getting some better value on FA market than these guys should be possible. This team has some pieces. Bunting, Rust and DOC especially are good wingers and good value.

It´s possible to compete next season, but proper work absolutely needs to be done. This last month, the team was extremely fun to watch and actually really good. Came up just short. But they finally realized how to score goals. It all came down to constant net front presence and point shots. 50% of scoring came from that lately.

 

[canadianguy77]

Somehow Dubas created a worse team than Hextall did.

Amazing work.

Who knows which team is better? Without a competent coaching staff it’s too hard to tell. But I think as a whole, this team played better than last years. They had some really good stretches of hockey. Last season was a total slog.

This team was definitely good enough to make the playoffs.

 

[66-30-33]

Hershey has had one of the best PPs in the AHL the last 2 years under Todd Nelson, and way back when he coached Grand Rapids to a championship they were ranked #1 then too. I do not see much about Hershey’s PP that I can point to that makes it good but change is needed, obviously. With or without Sullivan he might be a good assistant to run the PP/D.

He’s probably on some teams radars for a head coaching spot though.

I'd probably take him over Sullivan...let him coach our PP, it can't be any worse.

 

[Gurglesons]

This delusion about Dubas not being able to fire Hextall is like the delusion people had that Mike Sullivan wasn’t really that big of a fan of Jeff Carter.

 

[BillyOcean]

I'll be right about TJ just like I was with MAF. Sorry.

Was it the part where he was benched and they won back to back Cups? Was that what you were right about? I don't know what your obsession with Jarry is. Fleury I get. He has a beautiful smile. I guess you're like one of those Florence Nightingale effect things. I get moist over oft injured goalies who meltdown constantly and need to be coddled too.

 

[Empoleon8771]

There's literally quotes from Mike Sullivan about not wanting to overcoach the PP. He's said it repeatedly in his time here.

Nothing will change as long he's here.

They've changed his assistant coaches. They've changed the roster. They've changed GMs.

Same issues still

Where are these quotes that support this claim?

I'm not defending Sullivan here, he clearly sucks and should be fired. But there is no proof that he's telling Rierden "don't make any changes to the powerplay, the guys will figure it out".

 

[Gurglesons]

Who knows which team is better? Without a competent coaching staff it’s too hard to tell. But I think as a whole, this team played better than last years. They had some really good stretches of hockey. Last season was a total slog.

This team was definitely good enough to make the playoffs.

Last season’s team was firmly in a playoff spot and then the wheels came off because Petry had a concussion, Letang had a stroke, and Jarry was hurt.

 

[66-30-33]

Where are these quotes that support this claim?

I'm not defending Sullivan here, he clearly sucks and should be fired. But there is no proof that he's telling Rierden "don't make any changes to the powerplay, the guys will figure it out".

I thought I read it when we traded for Karlsson.

 

[Allie Kitsune]

At long last, The Big Jeff Era is over.

Too bad the Sully Era isn't ending with it.

 

[Gurglesons]

Where are these quotes that support this claim?

I'm not defending Sullivan here, he clearly sucks and should be fired. But there is no proof that he's telling Rierden "don't make any changes to the powerplay, the guys will figure it out".

Mike Sullivan gets philosophical on Penguins power play — now he needs to get it working

When it comes to his team’s confounding power play, you can hear Pittsburgh Penguins coach Mike Sullivan struggling with the contradictions. He wants it to be more “predictable,” but he doesn’t want it “robotic.” He wants his skilled players to be creative, but he also wants the execution to be

triblive.com

 

[chethejet]

Carter signed a 2 year extension that I believe was the deal to get him to agree to a trade from LA.. The problem was the over 35 deal that was the type that Pens could do nothing. Letanf and Geno have such deals but Letang looks to still be a top pairing D man as to his play. Geno perked up with Bunting and maybe they can get one more decent year from him. Pens have to make changes here.

 

[vodeni]

just noticed after Carter's goal, geno went to the net to collect the puck...these guys are good

 

[BusinessGoose]

They went out like _________

As usual

Coach forcefeeding mins to bums

 

[BillyOcean]

Not having a starting goaltender this year didn't help. They spent $5 million a season on a guy we all knew was a big mistake. The dude is fragile and mentally soft. We've been dealing with that at the goaltender position since the early 2000s. Shame.

 

[canadianguy77]

Last season’s team was firmly in a playoff spot and then the wheels came off because Petry had a concussion, Letang had a stroke, and Jarry was hurt.

But the hockey was shit all season long. They had stretches this season where they dominated ES play. If not for some untimely goaltending they could’ve went on a 10-15 game run back in November December.