Seravalli: Penguins looking to trade Pierre-Olivier Joseph

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[Marc the Habs Fan]

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Frank Seravalli: “Yeah, there’s one in particular. I’m keeping a close eye on the Pittsburgh Penguins and their blueline, and that’s because last week Penguins general manager Ron Hextall sent a note to his 31 counterparts, letting them know that Pierre-Olivier Joseph is available via trade, and that’s just part of their process that they’re going through on their back end. When you consider the addition of someone like Jan Rutta and Jeff Petry, all of a sudden numbers get really interesting in a hurry. So, when you get to this time of year, the other part is when you send out a note like that, teams are also kind of calling your bluff. Okay, P-O Joseph is available, well that must mean that you’re in a numbers crunch, and eventually if he’s the guy you’re singling out, well then you may need to put him on waivers at some point, so why would we trade for a player we could just pick up on waivers in a few days?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Anaheim is going to pick him up for free. other teams likely cant carry him and would lose him to the waivers eventually too.

 

[Wayfarer13]

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Yes and no from a Montreal position. The Habs could trade a surplus winger for Joseph if the winger helps the Penguins.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Arizona desperately needs a dman or 4.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Yes and no from a Montreal position. The Habs could trade a surplus winger for Joseph if the winger helps the Penguins.

Pens likely prefer AHL depth and a pick because they don't really have room (or cap space) for an actual NHL player coming back.

 

[belair]

This seemed kind of obvious after they traded for Ty Smith.

Flip him to a team like Arizona and grab your Zohorna replacement.

 

[Voight]

I wouldn't be shocked if nobody trades for him, knowing they can get him for free in a week or even sooner,

 

[Captain Mountain]

Anaheim is going to pick him up for free. other teams likely cant carry him and would lose him to the waivers eventually too.

Montreal needs D, management has explicitly stated they're willing to waive veterans and have priority on waiver claims. There are other teams ahead of the Ducks that would pick him up too.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

You know, Pittsburgh can option Smith to the AHL if they can't trade POJ, just saying.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Excellent physical tools, but seems to have poor IQ. After another disappointing camp pens are seemingly done with him.

 

[Kevin Musto]

1-for-1 swap with Nicolas Beaudin

 

[Vector]

I wouldn't be shocked if nobody trades for him, knowing they can get him for free in a week or even sooner,

A team with middle to lower waiver priority would probably be inclined to offer a player who's in the same situation next season or a late pick.

 

[SomeDude]

You know, Pittsburgh can option Smith to the AHL if they can't trade POJ, just saying.

I would say that Smith has shown to be the better player so he should stay, but since Josh Archibald is still here and Zohorna is in Calgary, performance apparently means nothing to this staff.

 

[Peat]

You know, Pittsburgh can option Smith to the AHL if they can't trade POJ, just saying.

Can but are unlikely to do so.

 

[Nucker42]

I wouldn't be shocked if nobody trades for him, knowing they can get him for free in a week or even sooner,

Unless you want him but know someone else would claim him before you

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

You know, Pittsburgh can option Smith to the AHL if they can't trade POJ, just saying.

Smith is better. Has some work to do defensively but his offensive instincts are there.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Not surprised, he has been underwhelming at camp. Very frustrating to see.

 

[Wayfarer13]

Pens likely prefer AHL depth and a pick because they don't really have room (or cap space) for an actual NHL player coming back.

Possibly but not ingrained in granite.They are still in win now mode suggesting my proposal maybe looked at if it makes sense to them.

 

[Empoleon8771]

You know, Pittsburgh can option Smith to the AHL if they can't trade POJ, just saying.

Which is why they do still have a bit of leverage here. They probably don't want to do that because Smith looks very good, but it is a path available for them.

I wouldn't be shocked if nobody trades for him, knowing they can get him for free in a week or even sooner,

A team at the bottom of waiver priority wouldn't have that thought.

I'm not expecting much for him, I'd want something like an AHL top-4 D man and a mid round pick for him. Basically what Derrick Pouliot was traded for back in the day, which was Pedan and a 4th.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Damn yet another vastly overrated dman out of Pitts. Maata, Marino, now POJ.

 

[Jumptheshark]

so far nothing more than a fringe player at the nhl level

 

[jmelm]

I don't know if AZ would do this, but I proposed POJ (maybe with a + like a 2nd/3rd) for Kolyachonok, to give them a guy who is a couple of years younger and still waiver exempt.

If not him specifically, then a similarly young player with similar upside but one who is a few years further away from the NHL. Pens need LD prospects in their system, just not ones who have to clear waivers.

 

[Empoleon8771]

so far nothing more than a fringe player at the nhl level

Yeah but a team might believe there is upside there and may be willing to trade for it.

I don't think he brings back all that much. You see guys in his shoes like Juolevi and Pouliot go for only a replacement body and a whatever asset, so I doubt he'd bring back more than that.

 

[Schemp]

Arizona desperately needs a dman or 4.

That is not true! What they need is quality, they have already have quanity bottom pair/AHLers.

I don't know if AZ would do this, but I proposed POJ (maybe with a + like a 2nd/3rd) for Kolyachonok, to give them a guy who is a couple of years younger and still waiver exempt.

If not him specifically, then a similarly young player with similar upside but one who is a few years further away from the NHL. Pens need LD prospects in their system, just not ones who have to clear waivers.

Rather keep the Belarusian.