Peak Brad Marchand vs Daniel Alfredsson

[ThisIsTheSway]

Who was/is the better winger?

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[Cianide]

I like Marchand's game a lot. I think it holds more value than Alfredsson. He does many things very well. Alfredsson was good, I just don't think you win the cup with him.

 

[Beau Knows]

I like Marchand's game a lot. I think it holds more value than Alfredsson. He does many things very well. Alfredsson was good, I just don't think you win the cup with him.

They got pretty close, and he did win an Olympic gold medal.

 

[authentic]

I like Marchand's game a lot. I think it holds more value than Alfredsson. He does many things very well. Alfredsson was good, I just don't think you win the cup with him.

Marchand wasn’t exactly the player he is now when they won the Cup though.

 

[Cianide]

Marchand wasn’t exactly the player he is now when they won the Cup though.

Right. But he's still a pest.

They got pretty close, and he did win an Olympic gold medal.

Gold medal /= Stanley Cup.

 

[Amadeus]

Marchand

 

[Grifter3511]

This matchup seems so random at first glance, but actually has some good arguments to be made in either direction.

That said, I think Marchand's agitator factor puts him a little above Alfie.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Marchand wasn’t exactly the player he is now when they won the Cup though.

Ok but he still had 11 goals and 19 pts in the Cup run, 7 points in The Finals and 3 points in game 7

 

[Voight]

They got pretty close, and he did win an Olympic gold medal.

Meh, they barely avoided a sweep and got blown-out in the deciding game.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Marchand

 

[Hockeyholic]

Marchand. But it's much closer than the poll results.

 

[OilWagon]

Marchand peak and Alfie career for now

 

[Korpse]

Alfredsson was good, I just don't think you win the cup with him.

Why not?

 

[Foppberg]

Rat boy.

 

[Video Nasty]

Easily Marchand.

 

[NyQuil]

Meh, they barely avoided a sweep and got blown-out in the deciding game.

Every game Anaheim won except for the last one was decided by one goal scored in the 3rd period.

In any event, Alfredsson put together a Conn Smyth type performance where he led the NHL in playoff goals and playoff points.

I think Marchand is terrific and the pool is a good one but this “can’t win a Cup with Alfredsson” observation in this thread is inane considering he did virtually everything possible to do so for his team in 2007.

 

[Regal]

I think it’s pretty close. Alfredsson just before and just after the lockout was a high end scorer and had 3rd and 4th place finishes in points per game, in ‘06 and ‘08. Marchand’s highest finish is a 4th, though he also has two 5ths and a 6th. Both have a 9th. I ended up going Marchand because he was more consistently among the top for a long period (16-17 to 20-21 he was 3rd in both total points and points per game, against some stiff competition), and he was generally playing low ES minutes while doing so, so was quite efficient. I’d give him a bit of an edge offensively. I do think Alfredsson was better defensively though which mostly balances things. Marchand is good there too, but takes more liberties since he broke out offensively and has Bergeron to do the heavy lifting, whereas Alfredsson was the main defensive conscience on his big line.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Close but I'd give the edge to Marchand because he has his own cereal box.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Meh, they barely avoided a sweep and got blown-out in the deciding game.

Better than not getting past first round.

 

[Boreal01]

Marchand

 

[Video Nasty]

I think it’s pretty close. Alfredsson just before and just after the lockout was a high end scorer and had 3rd and 4th place finishes in points per game, in ‘06 and ‘08. Marchand’s highest finish is a 4th, though he also has two 5ths and a 6th. Both have a 9th. I ended up going Marchand because he was more consistently among the top for a long period (16-17 to 20-21 he was 3rd in both total points and points per game, against some stiff competition), and he was generally playing low ES minutes while doing so, so was quite efficient. I’d give him a bit of an edge offensively. I do think Alfredsson was better defensively though which mostly balances things. Marchand is good there too, but takes more liberties since he broke out offensively and has Bergeron to do the heavy lifting, whereas Alfredsson was the main defensive conscience on his big line.

Worth adding that since McDavid entered the league through today, which is in the midst of 8 seasons, Marchand is 5th in total points, 6th in PPG, tied for 5th in goals, 2nd in GWG, and 1st in SHG.

 

[North Cole]

Marchand, he has really come onto another level the last number of years.

 

[Korpse]

Worth adding that since McDavid entered the league through today, which is in the midst of 8 seasons, Marchand is 5th in total points, 6th in PPG, tied for 5th in goals, 2nd in GWG, and 1st in SHG.

Sounds like Alfredsson from 2000-2010.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Marchand AINEC.

 

[LuckyPierre]

Why I bring it up is that their production is eerily similar, with both peaking around their 10-12th seasons at around the same production levels. It's rare to see players age and continue to produce more, but these two have followed that path. Graphs below show Marchand in orange and Alfredsson in blue.

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I posted this in another thread last year, and the data was up until last season.

Anybody who says AINEC is being disingenuous. These two are actually incredible comparables.