Value of: Patrick Laine

[Conbon]

Huberdeau

 

[stevo61]

Laine is on Injured Reserve, right? He cant even be traded atm.

As a Jet fan I like the player BUT his game does not fit the style of game the team plays and his salary does not fit into the team structure.

Hes traveling with the team currently

 

[Heldig]

Hes traveling with the team currently

OK, that makes sense then that is name is out there in the trade winds.

 

[majormajor]

Hes traveling with the team currently

OK, that makes sense then that is name is out there in the trade winds.

 

[frederixx]

There's no chance any teams gives a lottery pick at this point I think. Maybe at 50% retention.

I don't think he's the right target for my team (Habs) but was curious what other teams would offer and what was the players assessment from Jackets fans

Doesn't have to be their own. Could be Calgary's

 

[WingsToPick4th]

From wings perspective I’d 100% give a pick and good prospect for him with retention.

Put him on the PP or a line with Larkin and he could score 40 again

 

[AvroArrow]

I could see Montreal offering a young dman and a pick for him. Pretty sure Columbus would be asking for at least a 1st.

Columbus should be adding a 1st to dump him, unless they're retaining like 4M on that.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

I could see Montreal offering a young dman and a pick for him. Pretty sure Columbus would be asking for at least a 1st.

His capspace is worth more than his play on the ice. That's not good.

 

[Scintillating10]

There have been some rumblings of the Jackets potentially looking to move big names.
Could that be Patrick Laine?
He carries a 8.7M cap hit until 2026. Patrik Laine Contract, Cap Hit, Salary and Stats - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
He's been injured a lot since coming to the Jackets.
Performances have been up and down.
Once seen as a future perennial 40+ goal scorer , he hasn't been that so far.
Considered lazy and one dimensional in the past, is it still the case?

What would the Jackets want in return?
and
What other teams would be willing to pay to acquire him?

That's a bit of loaded question. Can't stay healthy with huge contract. But he's averaged .81 ppg for his career. Not shabby numbers.

If I was the Habs I would offer to take his contract but no more.

 

[lwvs84]

No retention, no cap dump going back from Anaheim?

Gauthier-Carlsson-Terry
Lundestrom-Mctavish-Vatrano
Killorn-Zegras-Laine

Takes pressure off him to be the guy, gives him a playmaker and a vet on his line in a depth role, and I think his contract is up the same summer Ducks need cap space. Problem is, what's his value?

 

[King Woodballs]

I would take him back in the jets if the price was right.

 

[Cowumbus]

From wings perspective I’d 100% give a pick and good prospect for him with retention.

How much retention, what pick and what prospect?

 

[Cowumbus]

No retention, no cap dump going back from Anaheim?

Gauthier-Carlsson-Terry
Lundestrom-Mctavish-Vatrano
Killorn-Zegras-Laine

Takes pressure off him to be the guy, gives him a playmaker and a vet on his line in a depth role, and I think his contract is up the same summer Ducks need cap space. Problem is, what's his value?

Both your 2nds, a prospect and a cap dump?

 

[RedHawkDown]

How much retention, what pick and what prospect?

personally I’d do berggren/wallinder, 2025 1st but not more than that. I’m not sure if that’d be enough for retention

 

[Cowumbus]

personally I’d do berggren/wallinder, 2025 1st but not more than that. I’m not sure if that’d be enough for retention

I’d do Wallinder + 2025 1st in the summer for Laine at 8 million (700k retained). In general I don’t think the CBJ have any desire to retain for 2 more years. Then try to move the 2025 1st for help now.

 

[RedHawkDown]

I’d do Wallinder + 2025 1st in the summer for Laine at 8 million (700k retained). In general I don’t think the CBJ have any desire to retain for 2 more years. Then try to move the 2025 1st for help now.

I’d do this too, I think it’s a fair gamble for Detroit. If Laine can stay healthy this is the kind of trade that can dramatically accelerate the rebuild.

With a healthy Laine, a 25-26 roster could look like

Laine-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Danielson-Kane
Mazur-Kasper-Compher
Copp-Veleno-Rasmussen

That’s a very deep and difficult to play against roster

 

[lwvs84]

Both your 2nds, a prospect and a cap dump?

We don't need to send a cap dump, would rather pay less assets and more money. Plus, Ducks don't really have a really bad cap dump after this year.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

 

[Martin Skoula]

I’d do this too, I think it’s a fair gamble for Detroit. If Laine can stay healthy this is the kind of trade that can dramatically accelerate the rebuild.

With a healthy Laine, a 25-26 roster could look like

Laine-Larkin-Raymond
Debrincat-Danielson-Kane
Mazur-Kasper-Compher
Copp-Veleno-Rasmussen

That’s a very deep and difficult to play against roster

All it’s missing is a single PPG+ first line forward or 3.

 

[RedHawkDown]

All it’s missing is a single PPG+ first line forward or 3.

Larkin is presently a PPG first line forward. Nice try though.

 

[Lockin17]

Lot's of talk saying Laine is done in Columbus.
What would Columbus wants for him ?
Picks ?
Prospect ?
Quantity or Quality

 

[Crede777]

Lot's of talk saying Laine is done in Columbus.
What would Columbus wants for him ?
Picks ?
Prospect ?
Quantity or Quality

Quality. The Jackets have lots of high quality futures already in the pipeline. What they need is to recover as much value from Laine as possible in the form of a current NHl player. Which means any team acquiring him had better do so with the intent that he is a top-line player. Otherwise, the choice for Laine will be between playing in the NHL with Columbus or retiring.

 

[Nanuuk]

As Laine is in the Player Assistance program, one can only speculate the reason(s) why and hope that he fully recovers and be able to resume his pro hockey career.

It may be that he will be unable to resume his career so any team wishing to take chance on him would want to do so with the risk being mitigated by Columbus.

It may be that a change in scenery might do the lad a world of good. And it may be that even with that he would be unable to play up to his talent level.

So, for me, a 2nd round pick with about 3M retained might be a possible scenario. Or for a good roster player with a high draft pick coming back in return with perhaps less salary retained.

Being a Calgary fan, it wouldn't bother me if a deal was swung to get Laine. The organization has been patient and treated Oliver Kylington very well during his year and a half absence from hockey from his mental health issues.

The organization is re-tooling and Laine fits the age group and focus of the GM to acquire young, but underperforming players.

Might just work.

 

[AvroArrow]

Quality. The Jackets have lots of high quality futures already in the pipeline. What they need is to recover as much value from Laine as possible in the form of a current NHl player. Which means any team acquiring him had better do so with the intent that he is a top-line player. Otherwise, the choice for Laine will be between playing in the NHL with Columbus or retiring.

What does that even mean lol, no one is valuing him as a top line player

 

[Crede777]

What does that even mean lol, no one is valuing him as a top line player

Then nobody will offer enough to warrant Columbus trading him...