Confirmed with Link: Patches + Coghlan to Carolina. Return? YOU GET NOTHING!

[hangman005]

Who’s next, Stone?

And Pietrangelo for past considerations.

 

[CupInSIX]

Who’s next, Stone?

You joke, but they would if they could with concerns about his back.

 

[Cournoyer12]

You joke, but they would if they could with concerns about his back.

I’m not joking, been a huge fan of Stone since Ottawa days, heart and soul player wish him the best.

 

[CupInSIX]

I’m not joking, been a huge fan of Stone since Ottawa days, heart and soul player wish him the best.

He was smart enough to demand a NMC, so he and Petro will have a say at least. I wonder if Eichel lost his after the trade.

 

[Cournoyer12]

He was smart enough to demand a NMC, so he and Petro will have a say at least. I wonder if Eichel lost his after the trade.

Good question!

 

[CupInSIX]

I wonder why Coghlan had to be thrown in, like it matters if he has to get put on waivers anyway.

 

[Tanknation]

Who’s next, Stone?

Maybe Eichel for some more future considerations....

 

[willy702]

Maybe Eichel for some more future considerations....

Only if they throw in Lehner...

 

[LadyStanley]

Martinez might be next.

 

[Kublakhan]

I really like your team I am sorry that Eichel messed everything up for you guys, but don't worry things will get much worse Eichel is poison and a cancer that morphed into a hockey player..

 

[IceNeophyte]

I really like your team I am sorry that Eichel messed everything up for you guys, but don't worry things will get much worse Eichel is poison and a cancer that morphed into a hockey player..

 

[LadyStanley]

Max Pacioretty criticizes Golden Knights over lack of accountability - Yahoo Sports

Max Pacioretty had a few things to say about the culture of accountability — or lack thereof — in Vegas.

sports.yahoo.com

Patches berates organization for lack of accountability, from coaching and players.



Sounds like a culture shift needed

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Max Pacioretty criticizes Golden Knights over lack of accountability - Yahoo Sports

Max Pacioretty had a few things to say about the culture of accountability — or lack thereof — in Vegas.

sports.yahoo.com

Patches berates organization for lack of accountability, from coaching and players.



Sounds like a culture shift needed

“When I first got to Vegas, it was weird that there was, like, no accountability,” said Pacioretty. “And I’m not talking about in the team; I’m talking about like ever. You couldn’t feel pressure coming off anyone else, from the coach to the management.”

“There was a relief when I got there. But then I found myself being like, ‘I’ve got to reel this in and hold myself to a higher standard which I had always done.’ But maybe I got away from it when I had everyone else holding me accountable (in Montreal),” Pacioretty added.

“I mentioned that at the end of the year that no one is really holding us accountable,” Pacioretty explained. “If we have a bad year like this, the city would be half on fire in Montreal. Here in Vegas, it’s 80 degrees, and it’s sunny. We’re getting our car washed and getting our organic food, and going to play golf.

“I was kind of like, ‘we’ve got to police this thing a little better amongst each other.’ I don’t want to say it was a country club, but you have no one from the outside holding you accountable.”

"A lot of these guys haven’t played somewhere else so they don’t know really what it’s like," Pacioretty said. "I’ve felt myself personally it always gets the best out of you when my coach or someone else are demanding and hold you accountable and I found myself almost missing that a tiny bit when things went wrong this year."


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Max is such a joke. This team is definitely not a country club and there is plenty of pressure to perform. Very likely Pacioretty didn't get along with the guys on the team. I mean, even I dislike him and I'm just a fan.

 

[LadyStanley]

@hotcabbagesoup do you have lockerroom access so can refute him by your own evidence?

 

[theslatcher]

Max is correct: the Vegas media and fanbase is not even close to as crazed as Montreal's and several other big markets.

For the better. I think it speaks a lot more about Max than it does other players.

 

[Super Cake]

Still mad about the trade.

 

[VEGASKING]

"A lot of these guys haven’t played somewhere else so they don’t know really what it’s like,"

uhhh what? Other than a few young guys literally the entire roster came from somewhere else.

 

[CupInSIX]

That has to be one of the oddest comments I've seen in a while. Stone and Pietrangelo can't hold people accountable between the two of them? Martinez isn't a leader?

This feels a lot more like a dig at the Misfits (plus Theodore I guess) and Deboer, and his displeasure at Gallant being fired. Obviously Eichel's character/maturity issues also comes to mind as well.
Edit: or maybe he's talking about the Dadonov fiasco, fallout, then acting as if nothing ever happened. It would be nice if he clarified, because saying the most impatient team in the league acts like a country club with no accountability doesn't really make much sense.


Having said that, I choose to ultimately interperet this as him really saying 'WTF why was Spott still running the PP all year??" I can't say I disagree with him.

 

[CupInSIX]

Also for a team with no accountability, they ship players out every year for next to nothing (or in Patches' case, literally nothing) if they feel you make even 1M too much in cap.

 

[Vegan Knight]

Still mad about the trade.

I'm not. Max is good to get out of the locker room apparently.

His comments seemed more about bashing Vegas fans in the city for not being assholes to them when they lose. But he also called out his old teammates in a way.

Odd comment but it really only makes Pacioretty look bad and bitter.

 

[Vegan Knight]

That has to be one of the oddest comments I've seen in a while. Stone and Pietrangelo can't hold people accountable between the two of them? Martinez isn't a leader?

This feels a lot more like a dig at the Misfits (plus Theodore I guess) and Deboer, and his displeasure at Gallant being fired. Obviously Eichel's character/maturity issues also comes to mind as well.
Edit: or maybe he's talking about the Dadonov fiasco, fallout, then acting as if nothing ever happened. It would be nice if he clarified, because saying the most impatient team in the league acts like a country club with no accountability doesn't really make much sense.


Having said that, I choose to ultimately interperet this as him really saying 'WTF why was Spott still running the PP all year??" I can't say I disagree with him.

He said he felt it right when he got here didn't he? So why wouldn't he be bashing Gallant for the 1 2/3 seasons he was playing for him? He didn't play that many more games for DeBoer than Gallant, and Gallant has always been known as a players coach.

The whole comment is odd and I don't think anyone Max played with or for in Vegas will appreciate it at all.

Also, Marchessault and Theodore came up clutch more often in Pacioretty's time here than he did, not to mention if he's talking about Stone, Pietrangelo and Martinez, who is he even to talk about accountability?

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

It's such a weird set of quotes from him. Like, how do you not feel accountability when your owner is in the lockerroom pretty much every home game and he knows you by first name?

 

[IceNeophyte]

It's such a weird set of quotes from him. Like, how do you not feel accountability when your owner is in the lockerroom pretty much every home game and he knows you by first name?

Knowing someone and even being in frequent contact with them doesn't equate to holding them accountable.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

Knowing someone and even being in frequent contact with them doesn't equate to holding them accountable.

It's not just "someone," it's your owner, the big boss. An aging man who really wants to win a Cup and is often in the lockerroom. I think that actually intensifies the inherent pressure. The players can feel that virtual magnifying glass over their head 24/7. Especially if things are not going well.

 

[Knightmare]

It's not just "someone," it's your owner, the big boss. An aging man who really wants to win a Cup and is often in the lockerroom. I think that actually intensifies the inherent pressure. The players can feel that virtual magnifying glass over their head 24/7. Especially if things are not going well.

I don’t think you quite know what being held accountable means.

Being held accountable would be:

Benching players for not playing well.

Admitting in pressers that these guys need to get better at scoring goals instead of saying they ran into a hot goalie.

Firing a power play coach when your power play is garbage.

Having local media guys actually ask Max and Mark Stone why they disappear in playoffs rather than constantly focusing on “goalie controversy”.

And as far as the fans.. When the team misses the playoffs with a 91 million dollar roster - it’s ok to be angry. Instead most of the fan base (on social media at least) just said “it’s ok, they got us to 2 western conference finals in 2 years. Heal up boys! More puppy pics!”

Having your owner in your locker room saying “hey Max! Don’t forget to get your free car wash after the game” has nothing to do with accountability. In fact that sounds more like the country club setting that he’s talking about.