LeBrun: Panthers will consider moving Driedger now that Knight is signed

[violaswallet]

Yah that’s Lilly, sandin is arguably our best prospect (solid in ahl, WJC best defence man) but even Lilly is an overpayment imo for a back up

Wouldn’t he be your starter given your current goaltending? The premium is for taking Andersen off the books and opening up cap

 

[FinlandPanther]

What does it take from the Avs? His cap hit is quite enticing for our situation. Does Florida have interest in younger players or futures?

I mean to be honest it’s going to take an overpayment because we kind of need him right now. I’d honestly rather just not trade him and lose him in the offseason. At least he gives us a backup plan if Bob implodes like last season.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Mantha
Bernier @50%
Glendening @50%
Ryan @50%
Cholowski @50%


Lundell
Driedger
Luostarinen

 

[violaswallet]

I mean to be honest it’s going to take an overpayment because we kind of need him right now. I’d honestly rather just not trade him and lose him in the offseason. At least he gives us a backup plan if Bob implodes like last season.

I’d see if we could get Barron + cap dump?

 

[violaswallet]

Mantha
Bernier @50%
Glendening @50%
Ryan @50%
Cholowski @50%


Lundell
Driedger
Luostarinen

Can we add Barkov? Seems like too big of a steal for Florida right now tbh

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Can we add Barkov? Seems like too big of a steal for Florida right now tbh

K. You're overrating Lundell a bit huh?

A backup G with a small sample size & a sophomore F (22.5 yo) with 8pts/35 gp, -6...for one of the top teams in NHL.

Wow.

 

[violaswallet]

K. You're overrating Lundell a bit huh?

A backup G with a small sample size & a sophomore F (22.5 yo) with 8pts/35 gp, -6...for one of the top teams in NHL.

Wow.

@Jean Luc Discard can you explain me and Lundell to this fine Gentle(so)man? Thanks!

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

No interest in Detroit's miscellaneous scraps at half price, Lundell or no Lundell.

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

Wouldn’t he be your starter given your current goaltending? The premium is for taking Andersen off the books and opening up cap

Anderson is off the books after this year so I wouldn’t pay anything close to sandin, he’s likely on or with Drieger, Campbell is 7-0 so at best they’d likely split duties. I’m also hesitant on paying that much for a goalie whose been good as a back up for less than a year, look at all the back ups who went on to a take a number one role and sucked (darling, Jones, bernier etc)

 

[FinlandPanther]

K. You're overrating Lundell a bit huh?

A backup G with a small sample size & a sophomore F (22.5 yo) with 8pts/35 gp, -6...for one of the top teams in NHL.

Wow.

Lundell is a blue chip prospect. Just watched Mantha play today. No thanks. Guy is lazy as hell and a waste of talent. The rest you offered is a bunch of garbage. The classic I want him! Then when we say no, HES OVERRATED!!!!

 

[violaswallet]

Anderson is off the books after this year so I wouldn’t pay anything close to sandin, he’s likely on or with Drieger, Campbell is 7-0 so at best they’d likely split duties. I’m also hesitant on paying that much for a goalie whose been good as a back up for less than a year, look at all the back ups who went on to a take a number one role and sucked (darling, Jones, bernier etc)

Sure: it’s a this year trade (with option of resigning). This looks like the best year for Leafs to make a run but goaltending has been tough. Moving Andersen’s money let’s you add another piece too!

 

[Ciao]

Leafs offer Bracco and Kapanen/Johnsson.

Very tiresome.

 

[violaswallet]

Lundell is a blue chip prospect. Just watched Mantha play today. No thanks. Guy is lazy as hell and a waste of talent. The rest you offered is a bunch of garbage. The classic I want him! Then when we say no, HES OVERRATED!!!!

Don’t argue for those who deny the Lundell! There are those who are wrong and then there are these people

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

No interest in Detroit's miscellaneous scraps at half price, Lundell or no Lundell.

Lol.

Mantha=miscellaneous scraps?

Bernier has been one of the best NHL goalies for the last 1yr, on a lottery team, historically bad last year.

Ryan for addl. scoring punch, RHS/vet/character

LGD leads NHL in FO's.

Cholo, helps on PP2, AHL/NHL tweener atm but skills are there.


It's okay, FLA doesn't need to win anymore Cups. 1 SCF appearance/25yr. pace. I know Miami isn't a hockey city.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

Lundell is a blue chip prospect. Just watched Mantha play today. No thanks. Guy is lazy as hell and a waste of talent. The rest you offered is a bunch of garbage. The classic I want him! Then when we say no, HES OVERRATED!!!!

Scroll up to post #80. 1 up.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Lol.

Mantha=miscellaneous scraps?

Bernier has been one of the best NHL goalies for the last 1yr, on a lottery team, historically bad last year.

Ryan for addl. scoring punch, RHS/vet/character

LGD leads NHL in FO's.

Cholo, helps on PP2, AHL/NHL tweener atm but skills are there.


It's okay, FLA doesn't need to win anymore Cups. 1 SCF appearance/25yr. pace. I know Miami isn't a hockey city.

Oh you mad your scraps are trash and we don’t want them? Too bad. If we wanted AHL fodder we’d call them up.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

No way the Panthers throw Knight into the fire straight out of college. That would be stupid for them and unfair to him.

I don't buy the premise at all.

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

Sure: it’s a this year trade (with option of resigning). This looks like the best year for Leafs to make a run but goaltending has been tough. Moving Andersen’s money let’s you add another piece too!

I mean I suppose yes, I understand your logic but that’s just way too much, we could find someone to take Anderson for a lot less (if we wanted), Marleau cost a first and that was for a buyout and a full year, sandin is worth way more then a first

I don’t think we are a back up goalie away from winning a cup either. If sandin is being traded it’s for something a lot more crucial than a back up who has had a half year of being solid

 

[violaswallet]

I mean I suppose yes, I understand your logic but that’s just way too much, we could find someone to take Anderson for a lot less, Marleau cost a first and that was for a buyout and a full year, sandin is worth way more then a first

I don’t think we are a back up goalie away from winning a cup either. If sandin is being traded it’s for something a lot more crucial than a back up who has had a half year of being solid

Gotchy: if you value Liljegren more than a first I completely understand!

I was thinking Driedger+Leafs (competitors)=high second; Andersen contract in this environment=2nd. The package would equal a first to me or Liljegren! Definitely made a mistake with Sandin and Liljegren (The Leafs should be like Florida: one good prospect per country Makes life a lot easier)

 

[ThatsSoSlavin]

Gotchy: if you value Liljegren more than a first I completely understand!

I was thinking Driedger+Leafs (competitors)=high second; Andersen contract in this environment=2nd. The package would equal a first to me or Liljegren! Definitely made a mistake with Sandin and Liljegren (The Leafs should be like Florida: one good prospect per country Makes life a lot easier)

No worries! I’m just happy to have an actual non-argumentative conversation about a trade for once haha

 

[RogerRoger]

Mantha
Bernier @50%
Glendening @50%
Ryan @50%
Cholowski @50%


Lundell
Driedger
Luostarinen

The Panthers need a 2C and top4 D, so your trade proposal is;

A great, but expensive winger.
A downgrade at the backup position.
A replacement for Luo that is great at faceoff, but a clear downgrade overall.
A surprisingly healthy, and day to day with an injury, winger.
A dman that can't even crack the lineup of the worst defense in the league.

Mantha is a really nice piece, but wingers are not a need for the Panthers. I get how this trade helps Detroit, but it doesn't do much for the Panthers.
Imo, if Detroit trade for Driedger it's in a smallish trade to flip him to Tampa for a repeat, not a Mantha blockbuster trade.

 

[violaswallet]

No worries! I’m just happy to have an actual non-argumentative conversation about a trade for once haha

Eh this board should be fun! Sometimes trades don’t make sense for both teams!

It’s nice for once for Florida fans to propose the unreasonable trade

 

[FrolikFan67]

Lol.

Mantha=miscellaneous scraps?

Bernier has been one of the best NHL goalies for the last 1yr, on a lottery team, historically bad last year.

Ryan for addl. scoring punch, RHS/vet/character

LGD leads NHL in FO's.

Cholo, helps on PP2, AHL/NHL tweener atm but skills are there.


It's okay, FLA doesn't need to win anymore Cups. 1 SCF appearance/25yr. pace. I know Miami isn't a hockey city.

Mantha’s a great winger but we need centers. Lundell is extremely promising right now and tracking to be our longterm 2C in the not so distant future. We have no one behind Barkov, other than Loustarinen (who may be our longterm 3C). Not trading a prospect like that for rentals, to put it more nicely. Cholo isn’t what we’re looking to add on the backend longterm, bernier for one season is fine but that’s it because we have Knight coming soon, Ryan isn’t a longterm piece, neither is glendening and he’s just a 4th C anyways. Not saying those pieces by themselves aren’t enticing necessarily, but definitely not even considering moving lundell in a package for that, to be realistic.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

The Panthers need a 2C and top4 D, so your trade proposal is;

A great, but expensive winger.
A downgrade at the backup position.
A replacement for Luo that is great at faceoff, but a clear downgrade overall.
A surprisingly healthy, and day to day with an injury, winger.
A dman that can't even crack the lineup of the worst defense in the league.

Mantha is a really nice piece, but wingers are not a need for the Panthers. I get how this trade helps Detroit, but it doesn't do much for the Panthers.
Imo, if Detroit trade for Driedger it's in a smallish trade to flip him to Tampa for a repeat, not a Mantha blockbuster trade.

1. I wouldn't call Bernier a downgrade at all. He's been lights out for 1 yr., going back to ~midway of last season. Keep in mind the teams they both play for, perspective.

2. LGD is at minimum, = or better than Luo. LGD 9pts/36gp & tasked with shutdown duties. Meanwhile Luo gets 2nd/3rd line matchups, but has skilled PMD & F's to play with....also only 8pts/35gp for a Much Better Team. FO league leader, hits, has snarl, character, work ethic, PK, shotblock etc. The dude will block a shot with his face, he's All In 110% of the time. Decent backhand too.
Can & does score "dirty/playoff type crease crash goals", the kind that win series.

3. Ryan...see prior post

4. Cholo...will be fulltime in 21-22, only 23yo

5. We wouldn't trade for Driedger to flip him to TB. We'd just deal them JB.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

Trading your best goalie right before playoffs while also rushing your top prospect would be peak panthers