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Series Discussion: (P1) Anaheim Ducks vs (WC1) Calgary Flames
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Anglesmith
Setting up the play?
Yeah, it's bad. If it was out of character, it would be less of a concern, but it's been all year we've had discipline issues.
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Glen better have called Joe Maddon immediately after that game and asked him what he did to help the Cubs break the curse.
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On the micro level, this sucks. We keep losing some pretty tough games to lose.
On the macro level, there is a lot to like. 2 years ago they ran us out of the rink. Now, 5 on 5, we look like the better team.
Monahan has been dominant. Bennett has looked good. Gaudreau looked dominant at times, although he's got to shoot more obviously. Ferland is looking like he's just too fast and too strong to be stopped. Gio is back to playing like a top 5 dman.
There is a lot to like. This team is headed in the right direction.
On the macro level, there is a lot to like. 2 years ago they ran us out of the rink. Now, 5 on 5, we look like the better team.
Monahan has been dominant. Bennett has looked good. Gaudreau looked dominant at times, although he's got to shoot more obviously. Ferland is looking like he's just too fast and too strong to be stopped. Gio is back to playing like a top 5 dman.
There is a lot to like. This team is headed in the right direction.
100% agree with this, I feel like in the grand scheme this might be the best possible series to learn from. The Flames are only going to improve going forward, whether that's by coming back and winning this series, or losing and adjusting as time goes on.
OvermanKingGainer
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Should the Flames shake up their lines?
IIRC the last time we beat the Ducks these were the lines we rolled:
Gaudreau-Bennett-Chiasson
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Monahan-Brouwer
Ferland-Stajan-Hathaway
we won that game 8-3.
Getting Gaudreau away from Monahan and vice versa was probably the difference as they couldn't key in on both of those two players at the same time... it was one or the other.
I would personally like to see something really out-there, like
Frolik-Backlund-Chiasson
Gaudreau-Bennett-Tkachuk
Ferland-Monahan-Versteeg
Stajan-Jankowski-Lazar
though I know that's a pipe dream for our team who never mixes it up until it's too late. Even Bouma-Stajan-Lazar would work for me on that fourth line though.
IIRC the last time we beat the Ducks these were the lines we rolled:
Gaudreau-Bennett-Chiasson
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Monahan-Brouwer
Ferland-Stajan-Hathaway
we won that game 8-3.
Getting Gaudreau away from Monahan and vice versa was probably the difference as they couldn't key in on both of those two players at the same time... it was one or the other.
I would personally like to see something really out-there, like
Frolik-Backlund-Chiasson
Gaudreau-Bennett-Tkachuk
Ferland-Monahan-Versteeg
Stajan-Jankowski-Lazar
though I know that's a pipe dream for our team who never mixes it up until it's too late. Even Bouma-Stajan-Lazar would work for me on that fourth line though.
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I don't know if GG has learned anything from the CGTY-VAN series.
Ferland is capable of wreaking havoc on the forecheck, instead he has him playing more timid, conserving energy on perimeter shots because apparently he's a sniper now, on a line with Monahan no less.
Tkachuk has been neutered since the Doughty incident because neither the coach nor the players (save Engelland) had his back. Kid's probably wondering why bother sacrifice the body if all I get is an earful from coach and a couple of guys to fight all on my own.
Johnny looks timid because no one cares when he gets slashed and injured.
Hell, no one stepped up when Manson beat up Giordano, our captain. Humiliated, removed from the ice for 5 mins, could have been injured on top of that. No one bats an eye. Bouma doesn't give a crap, Brouwer has checked out.
GG wants them to be "focused" but has them playing timid and disinterested instead.
Ferland is capable of wreaking havoc on the forecheck, instead he has him playing more timid, conserving energy on perimeter shots because apparently he's a sniper now, on a line with Monahan no less.
Tkachuk has been neutered since the Doughty incident because neither the coach nor the players (save Engelland) had his back. Kid's probably wondering why bother sacrifice the body if all I get is an earful from coach and a couple of guys to fight all on my own.
Johnny looks timid because no one cares when he gets slashed and injured.
Hell, no one stepped up when Manson beat up Giordano, our captain. Humiliated, removed from the ice for 5 mins, could have been injured on top of that. No one bats an eye. Bouma doesn't give a crap, Brouwer has checked out.
GG wants them to be "focused" but has them playing timid and disinterested instead.
Here's a Kanye hot take: why should anyone care at all what you or anyone you talk to thinks? Pretty funny actually that you trotted this out as an "insult".
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If I were Gulutzan, I would strongly consider making some lineup changes. Not for poor performance in many cases, but to ice a lineup that is more competitive in a couple areas.
I don't think many guys who could be taken out of the lineup have been poor at all, but adjustments are the name of the game in the playoffs.
Up front, Lazar could bring some energy and additional speed to the bottom line, as I don't feel they have been overly effective on the forecheck and none of Bouma/Stajan/Brouwer are speedsters, the slight upgrade offensively would just be a bonus. Freddie was a near 60% faceoff guy (across ~120 draws) plus showed that as one of his strengths in preseason, so I think it's pretty obvious what his contribution could be if he drew in. Likely wouldn't play C, but you could get crafty with his usage and have him take some draws.
I wouldn't expect both guys to draw in (probably not likely either does), as I honestly can't think of two guys up front who warrant being taken out at this point.
On defence - this might not be popular - but I'd bring Wideman in. I, like most, wouldn't want to see a Engelland/Wideman pairing, but I do feel Wideman is an upgrade on Bart. This would mean working in more of a rotation than in pairs. The 3rd pair is going to be our weakness no matter what combination we use back there, so I'd play Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, and Stone heavy minutes while mixing Engelland in with Gio, Brodie and Hamilton while playing Wideman sporadically with Brodie, Gio and potentially Stone.
We've had a hard enough time moving the puck from D to our forwards, and Bart doesn't add anything in that department, while Wideman does. Especially since Bart handles the puck like a hot potatoe consistently.
I don't think many guys who could be taken out of the lineup have been poor at all, but adjustments are the name of the game in the playoffs.
Up front, Lazar could bring some energy and additional speed to the bottom line, as I don't feel they have been overly effective on the forecheck and none of Bouma/Stajan/Brouwer are speedsters, the slight upgrade offensively would just be a bonus. Freddie was a near 60% faceoff guy (across ~120 draws) plus showed that as one of his strengths in preseason, so I think it's pretty obvious what his contribution could be if he drew in. Likely wouldn't play C, but you could get crafty with his usage and have him take some draws.
I wouldn't expect both guys to draw in (probably not likely either does), as I honestly can't think of two guys up front who warrant being taken out at this point.
On defence - this might not be popular - but I'd bring Wideman in. I, like most, wouldn't want to see a Engelland/Wideman pairing, but I do feel Wideman is an upgrade on Bart. This would mean working in more of a rotation than in pairs. The 3rd pair is going to be our weakness no matter what combination we use back there, so I'd play Gio, Brodie, Hamilton, and Stone heavy minutes while mixing Engelland in with Gio, Brodie and Hamilton while playing Wideman sporadically with Brodie, Gio and potentially Stone.
We've had a hard enough time moving the puck from D to our forwards, and Bart doesn't add anything in that department, while Wideman does. Especially since Bart handles the puck like a hot potatoe consistently.
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Thanks.
But back to the topic at hand. Let throw a brand new rookie into the thick of NHL playoffs and shove a reliable 4th line center to the wing because of massive homerism.
Take a ****in' lap. This isn't NHL17
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Agreed on Bouma and especially on Brouwer.
But really you think the Flames can goon it up with anybody?
They are not built for it
Fixed that for ya.
Anyways. I'd definitely play that clip for the team. Down 2-0, gotta light a fire under them somehow.
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