Our PK was one of the best in the league and Gorges was directly responsible for that. Last season he made Subbans defensive game look a lot better than it was and had the best +/- on the team. If Gorges needs to step up Subban needs a jet pack up his ass.
Subban crossing his arms and acting like a child who can't get his way while the games that decide this teams future are being played. Sounds like a 10yr old to me.
People should just stop with this "it's a team sport". It's a team sport filled with players that are paid a lot, and others who aren't paid that much. There are stars in a team, and there are fillers. It's a team sport, but if Jonathan Quick isn't brillant, this team doesn't win the Cup last year as much as THE TEAM won it....And every other example like that. If you remove Subban from the team and can't add nothing significant, YOUR TEAM won't be as good. And Subban will prove that he's 5M $ worth. Not sure, but we did substract Gomez and his salary even if he, alone, wasn't the only liability on this team.
You decide how good YOUR TEAM will be based on the INDIVIDUALS making it.
People should just stop with this "it's a team sport". It's a team sport filled with players that are paid a lot, and others who aren't paid that much. There are stars in a team, and there are fillers. It's a team sport, but if Jonathan Quick isn't brillant, this team doesn't win the Cup last year as much as THE TEAM won it....And every other example like that. If you remove Subban from the team and can't add nothing significant, YOUR TEAM won't be as good. And Subban will prove that he's 5M $ worth. Not sure, but we did substract Gomez and his salary even if he, alone, wasn't the only liability on this team.
You decide how good YOUR TEAM will be based on the INDIVIDUALS making it.
What's bothersome is how some act like Subban should sign the 1st deal offered "for the sake of the team".
Like the NYR the last 15 years?
I do think that it does "seem" that PK's demands are unreasonable. That even to start with a Doughty type of contract, IF TRUE, made no sense so to get closer to what's more logical, well there's a big gap there.
But personnally, I don't buy Bergevin's position either IF TRUE. He is a player of exception. He is playing a tough position. We have nobody else like him right now on the team and in the pool.
We already knew that the idea would be that our most promising players like Subban, MaxPac and Price would be the guys that would be paid more. You just accelerate the pace for Subban and in the end, frankly, chances are we will pay less compared to what Subban could ask after the supposed bridge contract. I know though that Bergevin has to work with a lower cap next year. So you do hope that if Subban REALLY is to try to gain as many years as possible, he'll give some money on the other end to reduce the blow on next year's cap.
In the end, they HAD to come to an agreement whatever means necessary. If the player is too tough, too demanding, won't move and you hate his guts, trade the guy and move on. Be sure you get an incredible return but you would have IF it would have happened prior to the well-known problems we're having right now.
Blindly following management hasn't really paid off now has it? Anyone who follows this hockey club should know that incompetent management exists at all levels.
Of course the vets are going to wear the letters, that's the way it's always been, unless you're generational talent, the vets get the letters. Players openly whining in public is the exact opposite of solid leadership.
How someone could infer that I said PK is a generational talent and should be wearing the C from the post above is beyond me.
You seemed to attempt to infer a fair amount, since you responded to absolutely nothing I said and made up a bunch of crap.
Definitely true.People should just stop with this "it's a team sport". It's a team sport filled with players that are paid a lot, and others who aren't paid that much. There are stars in a team, and there are fillers. It's a team sport, but if Jonathan Quick isn't brillant, this team doesn't win the Cup last year as much as THE TEAM won it....And every other example like that. If you remove Subban from the team and can't add nothing significant, YOUR TEAM won't be as good. And Subban will prove that he's 5M $ worth. Not sure, but we did substract Gomez and his salary even if he, alone, wasn't the only liability on this team.
You decide how good YOUR TEAM will be based on the INDIVIDUALS making it.
What GREAT individuals did they have? Not talking about the names here....the performances. Aside from Lundqvist. You can name Philly too though you will be disregarding the goalie position which again proves my point. A GREAT goalie in Philly makes them win cups. Not a an average goalie who happens to be A GOOD TEAM PLAYER.
Game starts with A GREAT GOALIE and then move from the backhand. Does Boston win the Cup without Chara? or even without Thomas' miracles? Would Boston win with just a great team concept and great Julien system? And I like Julien but the answer is obviously no.
Your are pretty agressive. Relax man. Here are my thoughts on your comments:
Anyone who follows this hockey club should know that incompetent management exists at all levels.
The way you phrased this can be interpreted as the current management is incompetent at all levels. Concerning the discussion on this thread this was the logical interpretation. I am not sure if that's the case. I agree that the Habs have had management issues in the last 20 years but there's been some success, especially before that. And I am not sure what you mean by all people following management blindly not paying off. That makes no sense since you have to follow management, there no way around that. Unless again you mean something completely different.
How someone could infer that I said PK is a generational talent and should be wearing the C from the post above is beyond me.
That's my bad. I was hinting at the fact that PK and his agent might think he's a generational talent hence why this is not being resolved in a timely manner.
You need a few GREAT players and a great TEAM. They go together.
Letting your BEST GREAT player at home is a bad way to start.
Letting your BEST GREAT player at home is a bad way to start.
Can't wait for the Don Cherry PK bashing. Anyone else excited?
Not sure I'm looking forward to this. It might all of us look a little less crazy
You need a few GREAT players and a great TEAM. They go together.