OT: Other Chicago & General Sports Thread XXVIII: Jackie Robinson West loses 8-4 to Korea

[MurrayBannerman]

Don't care, would rather have a top 15 pitcher.

Baseball is scoring less runs. Better take pitching.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Good god what is this crap I'm reading.. Ok I'm to say this again and it's ridiculous how underrated the sox farm is just because they don't get the media attention like the cubs/red sox etc. farm does or the non mouthing of their success rate. I've already said they are probably below middle of the pack now. I never said they were top 10. I said you could ARGUE with another top 10 pick for NEXT SEASON and even that's not possible because Rodon will graduate in his prospect status by then anyways so it's a moot point. As far as a link, didn't someone post this just a few pages ago on this very thread?http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/white-sox-plan-can-make-carlos-rodon-elite-pitcher I think it was MB himself actually who is probably one of the only Cubs fans here who is pretty level headed about his **** sox related (and coldsteel to an extent as well) and is as much of a prospect guy as I am (I won't comment on Sabremetrics lol). That's just one example. I can give you a couple of more if you want. He was considered the consensus top pick of the draft since his sophomore season at NC State. What scared scouts/organizations? Number one, his workload. Dude was throwing a ton of pitches not to mention sliders. Another was a bit of a down year. Sure his peripherals were still good and he actually improved on alot of them, but he wasn't as dominant as his seasons prior and guys like Aiken were creating steam. Another was his agent which you can probably bank why the astros passed on him since they had Aiken and Nix lined up before the small UCL discovery. There is not a doubt in my mind that if the sox passed on him, Theo would've been licking his chops on Rodon. Sox are lucky Rick Hahn has shown a willingness to deal with Boras since he was the one doing the contracts in the KW regime with a couple Boras guys at the time. If Kenny was still running things.. Probably would of drafted another athletic, two sport guy with enormous potential as well as bust rate.

They really weren't. Walks. Tons of walks.

He fell because of, like you said, the workload, fastball command issues, and the lack of a potential third plus pitch.

 

[ChiGuySez]

MiLB.com ‏@MiLB 27m
Carlos Rodon pulled for @KnightsBaseball. 4 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 8 K, 73 pitches, 47 strikes. http://atmilb.com/1slDzSg #WhiteSox

8ks in 4 IP. Impressive. Didnt think he could look that good jumping to AAA.

Bryant with a HR first at bat.
Russell with a HR
Schwarber with 2 HR today.

Love it!

The hit parade continues for next prospect wave.

Hoping the Cubs can find some middle rotation starters. Most of them are at AA right now.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Baseball is scoring less runs. Better take pitching.

Right, I love Rodon and have always though he will be a star but in MLB in 2014, you don't necessarily have to be a star to pitch like one.

 

[Illinihockey]

Iowa Cubs have 7 games left in the season and are pretty close to being eliminated from the playoffs. Going to see Soler in Chicago in a week.

 

[Illinihockey]

Cubs No-Hit Streak‏@CubsNoHitStreak·1m
Off-Day Fun Fact: Since trade to A's Samadrzija and Hammel are 4-8, 5.01 ERA in 16 starts.

Hendricks, Wada are 9-2, 2.15 ERA in 16 starts.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

Cubs No-Hit Streak‏@CubsNoHitStreak·1m
Off-Day Fun Fact: Since trade to A's Samadrzija and Hammel are 4-8, 5.01 ERA in 16 starts.

Hendricks, Wada are 9-2, 2.15 ERA in 16 starts.

Better take pitching.

 

[Illinihockey]

Its also crazy Schwarber is killing a notriously hard hitters league. If he can stay at catcher, he's going to have huge value for the Cubs. Don't think its out of the realm of possibility he ends next year in Iowa.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Cubs No-Hit Streak‏@CubsNoHitStreak·1m
Off-Day Fun Fact: Since trade to A's Samadrzija and Hammel are 4-8, 5.01 ERA in 16 starts.

Hendricks, Wada are 9-2, 2.15 ERA in 16 starts.

It's almost like the AL is a harder league to pitch in. WHO KNEW???

 

[MurrayBannerman]

This is why I don't want Schwarber to stick at catcher.

Also that the bat is too good to stuff in the minors for too long.

 

[clydesdale line]

SideLeague @SideLeague 1h
MLB Stat of the Day: #Cubs 2B Javier Baez has 82 at-bats. #Tigers Victor Martinez has 444 at-bats. They both have 36 strikeouts.

 

[Kurtosis]

SideLeague @SideLeague 1h
MLB Stat of the Day: #Cubs 2B Javier Baez has 82 at-bats. #Tigers Victor Martinez has 444 at-bats. They both have 36 strikeouts.

He also has the highest HR rate of any 2B in the entire league. Anyone who knew anything about him knew he was going to strikeout a ton upon getting called up. It has taken him about 200 PA's to adjust when promoted; that is why they are getting the growing pains out the way right now and not at the beginning of the season next year.

 

[ColdSteel2]

I wouldn't even care if he hit .200 and struck out 300 times if he clubbed 35-40 homers from 2B.

 

[MurrayBannerman]

86 PAs is apparently a large sample size now.

 

[hawksrule]

SideLeague @SideLeague 1h
MLB Stat of the Day: #Cubs 2B Javier Baez has 82 at-bats. #Tigers Victor Martinez has 444 at-bats. They both have 36 strikeouts.

And yet he's far and away better than any position prospect in the Sox organization. (maybe you can find an anonymous quote saying differently).

 

[Sarava]

And yet he's far and away better than any position prospect in the Sox organization. (maybe you can find an anonymous quote saying differently).

What is with you Cub fans around here? This has nothing to do with the Sox.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Yeah, no reason to put down the Sox. For them, it's about where they've been (2005) and for us, it's about where we are going. They're probably happy with their situation and we're happy with ours.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

What is with you Cub fans around here? This has nothing to do with the Sox.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

Yeah, no reason to put down the Sox. For them, it's about where they've been (2005) and for us, it's about where we are going. They're probably happy with their situation and we're happy with ours.

 

[ColdSteel2]

Well, the Sox got themselves in this situation by going for it all of the time and it has paid off with playoff appearances and a championship. All I've heard from Sox fans talking **** since is that they won the world series in 2005. So there is no need for Cubs fans to rub the prospect/future thing in their face, no need to sink to that same level. Just say "You guys won the World Series in 2005, congrats"

 

[hawksrule]

What is with you Cub fans around here? This has nothing to do with the Sox.

When a Sox fan attempts (albeit feebly) to degrade one of our best prospects, I wouldn't think responding in-kind is out of line?

Yeah, no reason to put down the Sox. For them, it's about where they've been (2005) and for us, it's about where we are going. They're probably happy with their situation and we're happy with ours.

I would think they'd be happy, given that they won recently and we haven't won in 100+ years. And that's what makes the inferiority complex among some Sox fans so mystifying.

 

[ColdSteel2]

I would think they'd be happy, given that they won recently and we haven't won in 100+ years. And that's what makes the inferiority complex among some Sox fans so perplexing.

They're turning into the Cubs and we're turning into the Yankees while they're coming off a 100 year reign of superiority over us. It can't be an easy adjustment. I hope they figure everything out and become good so we can have a rivalry with them.

 

[IU Hawks fan]

They're turning into the Cubs and we're turning into the Yankees

What the **** are you even talking about?

 

[ColdSteel2]

What the **** are you even talking about?

You guys are starting down the long road to becoming good every season. We're walking up to the front door.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Everybody jump to conclusions!

And I know not to trust weather forecasts this far out, but looking like a rainy week+ in the area. Just hoping it's sunny on Sunday, as I'm about 50% sure that I'll be going to the Sox/Tigers game for the cheap seats and to enjoy a long weekend.