LeProspector
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OHL poised to lose a TON of talent to USHL/BCHL, CHL is sweating bullets.
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austin63867
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London sure is gonna be stacked next year
Maybe start paying your players and they might want to stay.
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WarriorofTime
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London will be fine. Everyone else not so sure. If you can get a tender with a good team followed by an offer to a top program, a better deal than about 80 % of OHL teams.
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BondraTime
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They aren’t getting paid in the CHL, so they go to the BCHL and USHL to not get paid?
They are just going the NCAA route, thats it.
The CHL loses a dozen+ guys every year to NCAA routes.
Exactly. For every good player leaving, another will step up with opportunity
Whether this comes to pass or not ( I really really doubt all those players will end up in the USHL/BCHL), I can totally foresee, in the very near future, the OHL adopting a tender system similar to what the USHL employs.
Players today no longer wanted to be told where they are going to play, rather they want to dictate where they will play.
WarriorofTime
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I’ve been saying the OHL in particular but WHL as well needs a tender system yesterday. The best kids shouldn’t have to get drafted and go where they’re told. Where else in the world do we do that with 15 year old amateurs. The kids just happy to be on any team, that’s fine. But the teams should be allowed to have up to 2 tenders per year. If an organization is just a flat out better place to develop than others, the best and most in-demand kids in the region shouldn’t be hamstrung by a draft that forces them to go play for a mess.
They aren't getting paid in BCHL or USHL so them getting paid in CHL would be a strong motivator. Not that difficult.
As is, NCAA just is far more attractive than slave labor in CHL.
You love to see it. USA hockey ain't perfect, but they're a lot better than holier than thou hockey canada.
I'm loving what the BCHL is doing too
I'm loving what the BCHL is doing too
LeProspector
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Imagine if half of the NHL’s first round picks said “I would rather go to the KHL instead” that’s essentially what this amounts to. If these leagues can’t attract the top talents anymore, the league is going to start to struggle and teams may fold. You may not think it’s that big of a deal, but I guarantee you Hockey Canada does.
Honestly, unless you are capable of making the NHL as a teenager, I'd probably go Tier II route and keep my NCAA options open at 16/17 years old.
BondraTime
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The CHL doesn’t need to pay its players to attract them, they are the predominant league in Canada and will continue to be. Should they start paying them, all the better. Like the NCAA, they get their schooling benefits paid for.
Players will continue to go the NCAA route as they have been for the past 30 years. This year is no different than any of the past.
All the CHL guys get schooling when they are finished,
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Gaylord Q Tinkledink
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If I'm not mistaken, for each year you play in the CHL, you get 1 year of College for free.
If you're good, you also get under the table incentives to play for certain teams throughout the CHL.
I guess if you get a chance to go to a NCAA school and you can complete your education and play hockey, why not ?
This is good news to kids who are a bit down the hockey depth charts.
If you're good, you also get under the table incentives to play for certain teams throughout the CHL.
I guess if you get a chance to go to a NCAA school and you can complete your education and play hockey, why not ?
This is good news to kids who are a bit down the hockey depth charts.
We’ll see, but generally players from the BCHL/AJHL (merger) are a tier below the CHL. While it sets them up nicely for college hockey in the states, the CHL is still the best route for development for these kids. A top prospect sacrificing that to play in a lesser quality league so you can play college hockey… is an interesting choice. It certainly didn’t really work out for Jost, Newhook, Holloway, and others I’m probably missing who haven’t lived up to expectations. Even Makar had to go through a major transition from Junior A to college his first year.
lesser quality players would benefit greatly from doing this. If you’re a top prospect, you’re better off staying in the CHL or play in the USHL. USHL is much more comparable to the CHL and has far superior resources.
lesser quality players would benefit greatly from doing this. If you’re a top prospect, you’re better off staying in the CHL or play in the USHL. USHL is much more comparable to the CHL and has far superior resources.
landy92mack29
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I really wish I could ignore this poster but unfortunately they spam all the threads so can't. No this isn't abnormal a decent amount of kids always think the Junior A-NCAA path is better for them and for some it is. Some kids need a longer development path so college gives them a couple more years to mature before trying to turn pro. Most of these kids would end up depth players in the CHL and be done at 20 where if they go Junior A they can still be the top guys there then go to school until they're 24-25, longer runway. Even for the kids who start on the Junior A path a decent amount of them change their minds and end up in the CHL anyway. Both paths are good especially if you're not a top talent, it's on the kids/families/advisors to try and figure out what's best for them. Even with this supposed great demise of the CHL(could argue the Q is falling draft wise though) they still produce the majority of the talent for the NHL and it guarantees kids a paid for education while playing in the best developmental league. Most top kids will get a NCAA scholarship but there's still the risk of will they perform well enough to get a good school let alone a school. Even if they get a commit the school can pull it out from them where CHL is a guarantee albeit not quite the same level of education/level of play in Usports. No the tender system isn't needed it's actually a very dumb idea that would see a select few teams dominate every year just like in the NCAA. The current system creates parity and forces every team to have the best everything so they don't lose players. The same people are the delusional ones who think it's smart to let teenagers play in the AHL because they're "too good" for the CHL when the history of teenagers playing in the AHL is filled with a long list of busts with very few success stories and those are just the high picks who play there early. Should be common sense but doesn't seem that common for a certain group
Bubbles
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HC doesn't give a crap about players going to the states. They'd rather punish the kids that decide to stay in Canada (BCHL) instead of working a solution.
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I'm wondering if having 60 CHL teams is starting to become a problem for the CHL. A large number of these teams should be Jr A programs as they operate in small towns and attracting less than 2000 fans per game.
Perhaps if the CHL consolidated to the markets where it has the strongest support the product would be more compelling for the elite level talent who want and are capable of playing at the highest levels.
I love that 60 teams provides lots of opportunities for players however there's only 6-8 teams in each league that are able to put together a elite level lineup with 6-8 NHL top prospects on them.
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LeProspector
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Agreed but am I not excellent at identifying legit talent through EliteProspects? I hit ALOT more than I miss.
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LeProspector
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That’s different, EU leagues aren’t reliant on young talent to populate the rink. CHL is.
TLEH
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NCAA is as strong as it’s ever been, you get to pick where you go. You don’t have to deal with the CHL-NHL agreement. No brainer.
