Speculation: Offseason coaching thread: Should they stay or should they go?

[DesertedPenguin]

Probably not. Will probably just be a bunch of guys who either are connected with Toronto or the Soo.

Even just the potential tug of war between Sullivan and Dubas over the assistant(s) will be interesting. Is Sullivan able to get a close friend like Quinn on board? Does Dubas shoehorn Keefe or a Toronto/Soo connection in?

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think people on here are way too hard on Keefe as a coach. He was a terrific AHL coach, to the point where you'd absolutely never be able to get him to agree to be WBS' coach, and most of his failures in the NHL revolve around the Leafs core of losers. He's also still pretty young for coaching standards, he's only 43 and became a NHL head coach at 39.

Firing Sullivan and replacing him with Keefe would not be a downgrade IMO.

 

[The GM]

I think people on here are way too hard on Keefe as a coach. He was a terrific AHL coach, to the point where you'd absolutely never be able to get him to agree to be WBS' coach, and most of his failures in the NHL revolve around the Leafs core of losers. He's also still pretty young for coaching standards, he's only 43 and became a NHL head coach at 39.

Firing Sullivan and replacing him with Keefe would not be a downgrade IMO.

Having a picture of a poo emoji behind the bench would not be a downgrade on sully

 

[orby]

I support the idea of Keefe replacing Rierden. I don't think Keefe is God's gift, but more than anything, the team needs a voice behind the bench that isn't Sullivan's. And if nothing else - if they simply must start the season without making a change of head coach - Keefe as an AC is a clear threat to Sullivan's job security.

 

[Gurglesons]

Even just the potential tug of war between Sullivan and Dubas over the assistant(s) will be interesting. Is Sullivan able to get a close friend like Quinn on board? Does Dubas shoehorn Keefe or a Toronto/Soo connection in?

Watching Kyle Dubas unable to force his will on a lame duck coach who is entering his 7th year of failure is not what I would call "interesting".

 

[Pens x]

Let’s see if Dubas botches this upcoming offseason, letting Sully have too much input on roster decisions again.

 

[Pens1566]

I'd take Keefe over Sully just because of being able to take ownership of failure:

 

[Lustaf]

I'd take Keefe over Sully just because of being able to take ownership of failure:

More responsibility taken than Sully would. Might not mean much but there it is.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Watching the games I didn't see how Keefe is to blame at all. The top players didn't show up except for Nylander.

 

[Jacob]

I think people on here are way too hard on Keefe as a coach. He was a terrific AHL coach, to the point where you'd absolutely never be able to get him to agree to be WBS' coach, and most of his failures in the NHL revolve around the Leafs core of losers. He's also still pretty young for coaching standards, he's only 43 and became a NHL head coach at 39.

Firing Sullivan and replacing him with Keefe would not be a downgrade IMO.

It’s also very true that coaches tend to get better in their second or third stop. Sullivan is an example of this, as is Gallant, Cassidy, Berube, DeBoer, Hynes. Maurice is twice the coach he was at 43. And it’s not like Keefe’s been bad in Toronto by any means.

 

[Andy99]

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Watching the games I didn't see how Keefe is to blame at all. The top players didn't show up except for Nylander.

I mean, that kinda cuts both ways. You can easily say Sully is responsible for the playoff bubble debacle because he couldn't motivate the team to show up.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Watching the games I didn't see how Keefe is to blame at all. The top players didn't show up except for Nylander.

This is the thing. Keefe seems to be the scapegoat for their big guys having the heart of the Tin Man.

The team itself generally plays well structured and doesn't get outplayed often. But the big boys who earn the big money are typically no shows in important games.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Marner will probably be the guy that gets shipped but Tavares and his 11M for old-man-Geno production SHOULD be the guy that gets tossed in an attempt to "fix" the team. Not that I care. I hope they don't win another Cup for another 100 years or whatever it is.

Killer team they built, there. Who did that, again?

 

[DesertedPenguin]

We're posting random YouTubers now?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Marner will probably be the guy that gets shipped but Tavares and his 11M for old-man-Geno production SHOULD be the guy that gets tossed in an attempt to "fix" the team. Not that I care. I hope they don't win another Cup for another 100 years or whatever it is.

Killer team they built, there. Who did that, again?

Lou Lamoriello.

Well, more so Shanahan because it seems like he's been the true guy running the ship for the last decade+.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Lou Lamoriello.

Well, more so Shanahan because it seems like he's been the true guy running the ship for the last decade+.

Yeah but....

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Lou Lamoriello.

Well, more so Shanahan because it seems like he's been the true guy running the ship for the last decade+.

Haha fair enough.

You'll have to forgive me. Until Kyle Dubas remembers that he was hired as POHO for a kingly sum (and then hired himself as GM) and doesn't need to grovel in front of Mike Sullivan for every little thing I'm going to be eyeballing him with more than a little suspicion. We all get on the coaching staff and rightfully so but in the end he's the guy that let this last season just... slide on by.

 

[SomeDude]

I'd take Keefe over Sully just because of being able to take ownership of failure

Dubas also takes the blame every chance he gets. They’ll be plenty of it to go around for both of them soon enough.

 

[Andy99]

We're posting random YouTubers now?

It’s The Hockey Guy…come on…lol

 

[DesertedPenguin]

It’s The Hockey Guy…come on…lol

OK. Why do we care about his opinions? What unique perspective is he adding?

Good for him that he's built up a YouTube channel, but why should I care that he believes the Penguins should rebuild?

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

https://x.com/joshyohe_pgh/status/1787814169028284807?s=46

It’s getting to be downright bizarre how much Yohe capes for Sullivan. We all know he loves GMJR because he would feed him information and I think the same thing is happening here.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

I love the first reply.

 

[Andy99]

I love the first reply.

Yohe can’t even write English…look at that tweet…

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

"I am better that Sullivan will stay."