Official 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[SolidSnakeUS]

I have taken even a cusorty look at a grand total of like 4 players, but the idea of Parekh and Buium being 10 and 11 on a consensus board does not exactly align with the idea of a weak draft.

(I know weak/strong is about the top handful of players and essentially holds no meaningful value as a term. It's just mind-bending from the outside.)

If I had to guess, when you get out of the top 15/16 players, it kind of has a bit of a drop off. That's how I see it anyways.

 

[BiggE]

If they can snag Parekh with their pick and Hage with Florida’s, I will be very happy.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

If I had to guess, when you get out of the top 15/16 players, it kind of has a bit of a drop off. That's how I see it anyways.

Like I said, I don't have the knowledge base to comment on this specific class so I'm just going to assume this is fair. But there is always a second and third sizeable drop somewhere between 6 and 22ish. That doesn't feel particularly poor. This is part of why I prefer tiers to rankings so much for discussion purposes.

 

[FLYguy3911]

You guys are going to make @BigToe 's head fall off with all of this Parekh talk.

 

[Appleyard]

Like I said, I don't have the knowledge base to comment on this specific class so I'm just going to assume this is fair. But there is always a second and third sizeable drop somewhere between 6 and 22ish. That doesn't feel particularly poor. This is part of why I prefer tiers to rankings so much for discussion purposes.

I think all of the "weak draft" chat comes from the fact it is really thin in terms of C's. Probably really only 6 guys in the draft with a legit chance to be top 6 level barring some very late, quick, development.

But on D? Best draft on paper since 2008.
And at wing? Above average I think.

I think that pick ~50 in this draft will be "above average"... given that guys like Gridin, Surin, Shuravin, Fransen, Muggli etc are some of the guys likely to be there or thereabouts and their level/potential.

 

[Appleyard]

I mean... Yakemchuk is probably the consensus ~6th best Dman in this draft.

He is a 6'3 righty with 120 PIM, from the WHL who was over P/GP this season and he might not go top 15 lmao.

Last year he would likely have been the 2-3rd Dman off the board (I mean, vs Simashev and Willander? Yeh, I would say teams would probably have favoured him or had him at worst 2nd of the 3)
In 2022? Probably a toss-up between him and Korchinski for 3rd D gone.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Will the Eggman revert back to building this team from the blueline out? A 1D is obviously what the doctor ordered, and given how thin the draft is in terms of top Cs as Appleyard pointed out above, makes me think it is inevitable that the 9-14th pick is a d-man.

I think all of the "weak draft" chat comes from the fact it is really thin in terms of C's. Probably really only 6 guys in the draft with a legit chance to be top 6 level barring some very late, quick, development.

But on D? Best draft on paper since 2008.
And at wing? Above average I think.

I think that pick ~50 in this draft will be "above average"... given that guys like Gridin, Surin, Shuravin, Fransen, Muggli etc are some of the guys likely to be there or thereabouts and their level/potential.

Who is the top C that could realistically be available for the Florida pick?

 

[Fight4yourRight]

I am so f***ing glad the Sharks ended up with the worst record. I really want them to take Celebrini over f***ing Chicago. f*** Chicago.

The problem is that Demidov is a great consolation prize for those scumbags.

 

[Appleyard]

Will the Eggman revert back to building this team from the blueline out? A 1D is obviously what the doctor ordered, and given how thin the draft is in terms of top Cs as Appleyard pointed out above, makes me think it is inevitable that the 9-14th pick is a d-man.



Who is the top C that could realistically be available for the Florida pick?

A few months ago I would have screamed "Hage" from the rooftops. But now? I think he goes top 20.

Which really leaves Boisvert and Misa... albeit Misa is maybe not a true C as spends half time at wing.

 

[Tarpongg]

With it looking like the Flyers are most likely to pick 12th right now (2-2-0, 1-3-0 and 0-4-0 will all likely mean they pick 9-12th)...

I think there will be some excellent prospects available when the Flyers pick.

IF they pick 12-13th?

Celebrini, Catton, Lindstrom, Helenius
Demidov,
Dickinson, Levshunov, Silayev

will all very likely be gone... that is 8 guys.

Eiserman, Iginla, Greentree, MBN, Connelly
Parekh, Buium, Yakemchuk, Jiricek

is another 9 guys who I think a lot of teams inside pick 12 will "think" about. Only 3/9 will be gone before #12.

I just hope one of Parekh or Buium make it tbh... I guess a 50:50 chance one does.

Thx Alex, how would you feel about Yakemchuk at 12 as a consolation prize?

Where do you have Connelly? It seems possible he slides a long way due to the social media stuff.

MBN seems low ceiling/high floor compared to the others you list- do I have that right?

 

[Appleyard]

Thx Alex, how would you feel about Yakemchuk at 12 as a consolation prize?

Where do you have Connelly? It seems possible he slides a long way due to the social media stuff.

MBN seems low ceiling/high floor compared to the others you list- do I have that right?

Yakemchuk is a solid player but I dont think he will be BPA at 12...

Connelly is probably in the ~16-20 range for me.

MBN, yeh, he is going to be an NHLer, but I struggle to see him being more than a very good two-way 2nd line winger. Though I would love for him to prove me wrong.

 

[BigToe]

You guys are going to make @BigToe 's head fall off with all of this Parekh talk.

I prefer him over all the other top D's other than Buium

 

[FLYguy3911]

I prefer him over all the other top D's other than Buium

Love when you talk D.

 

[Magua]

Need pro style players.

 

[Random Forest]

I want no part of Brandsegg-Nygard. I thought Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson was going to be really good, and now I don’t trust Swedish wingers with hyphenated names.

 

[Appleyard]

In terms of non-PP production? No-one else is even in the same stratosphere.

Only ONE other Dman had over 0.25 non-PP G/GP... Byram at 0.28.
Only THREE other Dmen had over 0.70 non-PP P/GP... Bouchard (0.81), Ellis (0.77) and Zellweger (0.73... albeit in a very small sample).

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

And somehow he may fall to the teens? Goddamn...

 

[Appleyard]

And somehow he may fall to the teens? Goddamn...

If you pretend those stats are that of a fwd...

Prince, Yakupov, Zadina, Grigorenko, Abramov Petan are the ONLY guys in the last 20 years who have failed to become top 6 level NHL forwards with the kind of numbers Parekh is putting up. Out of ~50 guys with such a profile.

If he was a fwd he would have had one of the best 50 draft years for a fwd from the CHL in the last 20 years.

 

[BigToe]

 

[Henry Miller]

I kinda want Iginla. Have a hunch he’ll be a stud and we’ll be seeing threads in 5 years asking why he wasn’t drafted higher. In the NHL pedigree seems to matter so that also bodes well for him

On defense Parekh is the realistic possibility I’m hoping for. I still think a crazy and unexpected name or two could make it to the Flyers pick. As long as they don’t go off board they’ll get a great prospect. If the Flyers pick 9th even better

 

[Appleyard]

Also if have interest click on the thread. Mostly not very surprising... but some interesting names pop up in places you would not quite expect.

 

[Rebels57]

Also if have interest click on the thread. Mostly not very surprising... but some interesting names pop up in places you would not quite expect.

If the Flyers drafted him, we would get the Drouin end of that spectrum.

 

[Appleyard]

If the Flyers drafted him, we would get the Drouin end of that spectrum.

At ~9-12 that would be a pretty solid outcome tbh aha. 20g, 50p winger... pretty much average for that range.

But he should go top ~5.

 

[Appleyard]

 

[IronMarshal]

I kinda want Iginla. Have a hunch he’ll be a stud and we’ll be seeing threads in 5 years asking why he wasn’t drafted higher. In the NHL pedigree seems to matter so that also bodes well for him

On defense Parekh is the realistic possibility I’m hoping for. I still think a crazy and unexpected name or two could make it to the Flyers pick. As long as they don’t go off board they’ll get a great prospect. If the Flyers pick 9th even better

There are rumors that Iginla may go to the Flames. They may have learned nepotism from the Flyers, but, Iginla in that spot is not really a reach.