Odubel Herrera arrested for domestic violence - suspended for rest of season

[Taro Tsujimoto]

Second player to be arrested for DV this month (Julio Urias).

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[rangerssharks414]

Stupid people

 

[Thedogo]

Jesus what's wrong with the world.
I was taught as a kid dont hit a girl unless she has a knife or gun. Apparently these guys weren't taught the same way.

 

[NJDevs26]

Jesus what's wrong with the world.
I was taught as a kid dont hit a girl unless she has a knife or gun. Apparently these guys weren't taught the same way.

Unfortunately domestic violence has usually been a bigger part of society than we realize, particularly 30-40 years ago and before when it was taboo to discuss it and guys were just told to 'cool off'.

What makes this spectacularly dumb along with being a **** is actually doing it in public. There's not even a he said, she said component behind closed doors the way there is in a lot of these cases, there were presumably witnesses at a public casino.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

 

[JWK]

MLB making up numbers as they go when dealing with domestic violence once again.

 

[AdmiralsFan24]

MLB making up numbers as they go when dealing with domestic violence once again.

That's the way it should be. Shoving a woman against a wall, while still terrible is a lot better than punching her as hard as you can 10 times in the face. Both fall under domestic violence but one is a lot worse and should be subject to harsher fines/suspensions.

 

[KevFu]

There's a fundamental flaw with the punishment applied to players...

When you garnish the wages of abusers, it makes the victims far less likely to report them: "Our household has an income of $23 million over the next three years, if I call the police it goes to zero." And it also can make them more likely to do further harm out of revenge ("you cost me my career!")

That's a terrible situation to put a victim in. The policy should be "We issue the paycheck to HER."

 

[Unholy Diver]

There's a fundamental flaw with the punishment applied to players...

When you garnish the wages of abusers, it makes the victims far less likely to report them: "Our household has an income of $23 million over the next three years, if I call the police it goes to zero." And it also can make them more likely to do further harm out of revenge ("you cost me my career!")

That's a terrible situation to put a victim in. The policy should be "We issue the paycheck to HER."

Eh, if he worked at an office or factory or just some regular job he would most likely be fired and the victim would not be getting anything anyway

 

[Neutrinos]

There's a fundamental flaw with the punishment applied to players...

When you garnish the wages of abusers, it makes the victims far less likely to report them: "Our household has an income of $23 million over the next three years, if I call the police it goes to zero." And it also can make them more likely to do further harm out of revenge ("you cost me my career!")

That's a terrible situation to put a victim in. The policy should be "We issue the paycheck to HER."

That invites false claims of abuse though, doesn't it?

 

[KevFu]

Eh, if he worked at an office or factory or just some regular job he would most likely be fired and the victim would not be getting anything anyway

But that’s the crux of the argument. We’re not just talking athletes, it’s true for all of society. If calling the police on an abuser means they get fired and lose their ability to earn an income, victims are less likely to do it unless it’s in the moment of violence when they fear for their life.

That invites false claims of abuse though, doesn't it?

Yeah, not ideal. There’s no easy solution to all of it. But at the same time, MLB is holding Herrera to a higher standard than the law, because to MLB the headlines themselves are not acceptable regardless of the legal charges.

MLB does some investigating themselves, and they can continue to do so. Plus, the whole “MLB doesn’t need to make this a public policy thing.” The income they’re garnishing COULD be going to the victim NOW for all we know (but probably not).

 

[Unholy Diver]

But that’s the crux of the argument. We’re not just talking athletes, it’s true for all of society. If calling the police on an abuser means they get fired and lose their ability to earn an income, victims are less likely to do it unless it’s in the moment of violence when they fear for their life.

I know what you are saying but why should the employer be responsible for anything? If my wife beats me up and I have her arrested and she gets fired her place of work has nothing to do with it. Loss of income is certainly a strong possibility but at the same time why would you remain in a relationship with someone who beats the hell out of you?

As far as this situation goes, Hererra seems to be getting off easy here as she is not pressing charges, he could be looking at potential jail time or who knows what


And I would imagine the wage garnishment probably just means the Phils don't pay him at all during the suspension, I don't think they are giving his money to MLB

 

[KevFu]

That's the catch 22. You want to punish the abuser, and firing an abuser or docking their pay is a punishment.

I'm just repeating what advocacy groups have said: While financial punishment seems like "justice," it carries the negative consequence for the victim: It's more of a deterrent to the victim calling the police and leaving the relationship, than it is a deterrent to the actual abuse.

 

[DarcyLeitch]

In big sport, I consider this behavior of an athlete unacceptable, knowing that it will then be replicated in hundreds of world media outlets, but in general it is terrible even for lesser known people.
The issue of domestic violence is a sore subject in the modern world, which you can learn more about at studydriver.com/domestic-violence, because thanks to Internet access, social networks, the ability to communicate with psychologists or social workers, people have a chance to save your health or even life, so it is very important to know various cases and influencing factors, to protect yourself or be prepared for the worst.