Obscure hockey facts/stats

[vikash1987]

According to the main board, since 1980 inclusive the Finals has had at least one player who was a teammate of Jagr. Furthermore, with the exception of 1986, they have all been Cup winners:

1980: Brian Trottier
1981: Brian Trottier
1982: Brian Trottier
1983: Brian Trottier
1984: Mark Messier
1985: Mark Messier
1986: Joe Mullen
1987: Mark Messier
1988: Mark Messier
1989: Jiri Hrdina
1990: Mark Messier
1991: Mario Lemieux
1992: Mario Lemieux
1993: JJ Daigneault
1994: Mark Messier
1995: Tom Chorskie
1996: Scott Young
1997: Doug Brown
1998: Doug Brown
1999: Benoit Hogue
2000: Scott Gomez
2001: Chris Drury
2002: Brendan Shanahan
2003: Jay Pandolfo
2004: Pavel Kubina
2005: N/A
2006: Mark Recchi
2007: Shawn Thornton
2008: Andreas Lilja
2009: Petr Sykora
2010: Kris Versteeg
2011: Mark Recchi
2012: Willie Mitchell
2013: Michal Rozsival
2014: Willie Mitchell
2015: Kris Versteeg
2016: Matt Cullen
2017: Matt Cullen
2018: Alex Chiasson
2019: Brayden Schenn
2020: Braydon Coburn
2021: Brett Kulak

Edit: 2013 originally had Daniel Carcillo, even though he and Jagr never played. Replacing him is Michal Rozsival.

Jagr was himself in the Finals with Boston in 2013, so any number of names could've applied that year.

It reminds of Shaq's streak of teammates in the NBA Finals, which goes back to 1984 and is still active if not mistaken.

 

[Super Fadio Bro]

Jagr was himself in the Finals with Boston in 2013, so any number of names could've applied that year.

It reminds of Shaq's streak of teammates in the NBA Finals, which goes back to 1984 and is still active if not mistaken.

It’s now over

 

[kaiser matias]

Jagr was himself in the Finals with Boston in 2013, so any number of names could've applied that year.

It reminds of Shaq's streak of teammates in the NBA Finals, which goes back to 1984 and is still active if not mistaken.

True, but I was going for Cup winners in the list, which is why I was looking for someone on the Hawks side.

 

[Iapyi]

Excerpt from the L.A.Times, October 16, 1995 :

"An employee of the St.Louis Blues apparently couldn't resist a parting shot at the team after he was fired.

"On the page listing playoff records in the hockey team's media guide, between the date of the Blues' last overtime game on the road and their last overtime loss at home, the anonymous employee slipped in a crudely worded 'record' for sexual favors.

"The red-faced Blues have recalled the guide and will have to amend it, at a reported cost of $70,000.00."

 

[The Panther]

On the 1989-90 Cup champion Edmonton Oilers -- a club that featured Steve Smith, Kelly Buchberger, Dave Brown, Jeff Beukeboom, and Mark Messier -- the team's Penalty Minutes leader was... Craig Simpson.

 

[frisco]

The only players in NHL history that played at least eight NHL seasons of 60+ GP and scored over 0.41 goals/game in every one of the those seasons are: Mike Bossy, Mario Lemieux, Richard Martin.

My Best-Carey

 

[FerrisRox]

I was surprised to see that Philly has had 37 player-seasons of 40 or more goals!

Honestly, I would have thought they'd be nearer the bottom than 2nd from the top. They have only four players who've ever had 50-goal seasons (Clarke and Lindros never did), and yet somehow they have 37 player-seasons of 40 or more.

Part of it, of course, is that Philly has had a lot of 40-goal seasons from non-Hall of Fame type of players. Not exactly forgettable players, but players who weren't necessarily known for big scoring all the time. These include:
Bill Flett
Bill Barber
Rick MacLeish
Darryl Sittler (easy to forget this one)
Brian Propp
Simon Gagner
Jeff Carter

How can Bill Barber and Darryl Sittler be "non Hall of Fame type of player" when each of them are in the Hall of Fame?

 

[The Panther]

How can Bill Barber and Darryl Sittler be "non Hall of Fame type of player" when each of them are in the Hall of Fame?

I meant Daryl Sittler as in it's easy to forget he even played for Philly, and he did so when he was passing his prime.

I didn't know Bill Barber was in the Hall of Fame.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

From the Ottawa expansion thread:

Only two first overall picks have played for a team that had a general manager who was also a first overall pick: Pierre Turgeon (Rejean Houle was his GM with the Canadiens for some time), and Steven Stamkos (whose first GM was Brian Lawton).

Wouldn't Vinny Lecavalier count as well? He was still in Tampa when Lawton became GM

 

[GJB]

The only players in NHL history that played at least eight NHL seasons of 60+ GP and scored over 0.40 goals/game in every one of the those seasons are: Mike Bossy, Mario Lemieux, Richard Martin.

There may be others, Ovechkin for one.

 

[frisco]

There may be others, Ovechkin for one.

I checked Ovechkin and he was right at 0.40 in 2016-17 according to Hockey Reference. However, if you run the numbers 33 goals in 82 GP in 0.402 or something so he's technically over. I'll adjust my post. You're right, there may be others.

My Best-Carey

 

[kaiser matias]

Wouldn't Vinny Lecavalier count as well? He was still in Tampa when Lawton became GM

Good call. He definitley should be included there.

 

[hacksaw7]

Never saw Barber as a Hall of Famer (didn't know he was in either)....but he played his last game at only 31 it seems with 420 goals in only 900 games. I'm ok with him going in.

Cowboy Flett's 43 goals in 69 games was odd. Other than that he was a guy who pretty much scored in the teens and sometimes 20's

 

[The Panther]

I don't know much about Barber, but he definitely seems like the classic "got-into-the-Hall-because-he-played-on-a-Cup-team" guy, along with, say, Steve Shutt.

Going by his 'adjusted goals', his top seasons are 43 and 36 goals. That's it, in terms of 'adjusted' 35+ goal seasons. (In reality, he had five seasons between 40 and 50 goals.) His playoff stats are pretty good, but when the Flyers were winning their two Cups he scored 9 goals in 34 games. (He did score a lot of playoff goals in '80 and '81.) Once in his career he finished top-10 in scoring.

I mean, maybe you had to see him play (I will assume so), but his resume does look quite underwhelming for a Hall of Famer. Then again, I would remove 50% of Hall of Famers from the Hall to keep the standard higher.

 

[DeysArena]

Mark Giordano is the only player to win a Norris trophy before he was drafted in the NHL.

 

[The Panther]

I was looking at the 1966-67 Maple Leafs (the old-man team that surprisingly won the Cup) results just now, and I noticed that the club bizarrely lost 10 games in a row in Jan.-Feb. 1967. (Even weirder, just one game after that streak ended with a tie, they went on a 7-game winning streak, their longest of the season.)

So, I was just wondering, is there any other Cup winner that lost 10 or more games in a row during the regular season?

 

[Wackster]

Remember the famous L.A. Kings triple hat trick in that 12-4 1990 playoff game vs Calgary?

well turns out there was another Triple Crown Triple Hat Trick.... and it came without Wayne!

Luc Robitaille (en route to 63 goals), Mike Donnelly (who later scored one of the most important goals in Kings history), and Jari Kurri (who got off to a blazing scoring start in 1992-93) all had 3 goals on November 8 1992

Los Angeles Kings at San Jose Sharks Box Score — November 8, 1992 | Hockey-Reference.com

What I've learnt is that Paul Coffey played for the Kings...

 

[hacksaw7]

I never really took a deep dive into that 66/67 Leafs team, but to have EIGHT guys 36 and older is pretty astounding.

That era in general seemed friendlier to the old warhorse than the mid 70s through the early 90s when a lot of guys petered out around 29/30. The NHL in 1966/67 had a good deal of guys in the top 30 in scoring who were 31 and older. Prentice, Pilote, Goyette, Wharram etc

Toronto's scoring was very balanced. Only 2 guys with 20 or more goals...but 10 guys had at least 10 goals (and this was over a 70 game season)

What happened to Bruce Gamble that year? He had a terrific 65/66 in a small sample size and a great 67/68.

66/67 he's 5-10-5 with a save percentage of .900 and a 3.40 gaa

 

[reckoning]

So, I was just wondering, is there any other Cup winner that lost 10 or more games in a row during the regular season?

They didn't win the Cup, but the 85-86 Calgary Flames that made the Final that season had an 11-game losing streak from mid-December to early January. Though in the middle of it they did manage to beat the Soviets in a Super Series game.

 

[Iapyi]

In the '80s when Harry Neale was coaching Vancouver they were playing in St Louis and Neale had gotten to know the cop who guarded the visitor's bench.

Neale started the game with the line of Stan Smyl, Thomas Gradin and Curt Fraser and they instantly gave up a goal. On their next shift they gave up another goal.

Neale quietly got the cop to give him his gun and he then shoved it straight into Smyl's back saying "One more shift like that by you jerks and I'm using this on you!"

 

[Iapyi]

On June 9, 1982 at the NHL draft being held in Montreal every single player chosen in the first round was at the draft except for one. Ken Daneyko wasn't there as his agent had no idea when he might be picked.

He was chosen 18th overall by New Jersey.

During the 1999-2000 season he became the 16th player in history to hit the 1000 games played mark with one team.

 

[The Panther]

The following struck me as kind of obscure (for me, anyway).

Most Power-Play points on the road only in one NHL season:
1. Mario Lemieux - 37 (1987-88)
2. Mario Lemieux - 36 (1988-89)
3. Ilya Kovalchuk - 36 (2005-06)
4. Mario Lemieux - 35 (1985-86)

 

[The Panther]

Here's another odd one that may surprise you...

Most Assists at home only in one NHL season:
1. Wayne Gretzky - 82 (1985-86)
2. Wayne Gretzky - 71 (1986-87)
3. Wayne Gretzky - 70 (1984-85)
4. Wayne Gretzky - 70 (1988-89)
5. Wayne Gretzky - 66 (1983-84)
6. Wayne Gretzky - 65 (1990-91)
7. Wayne Gretzky - 64 (1981-82)
8. Wayne Gretzky - 63 (1982-83)
8. Ron Francis - 63 (1995-96)
10. Wayne Gretzky - 62 (1980-81)

 

[The Panther]

Of the top-30 Points-per-Game on home ice only seasons in NHL history (min. 20 GP), 27 of them occur between 1970-71 (Esposito) and 1995-96 (Lemieux). The three that do not occur in that time span are:

24. Connor McDavid - 2020-21 (2.11 PPG)
28. Elmer Lach - 1944-45 (2.08 PPG)
30. Charlie Conacher - 1933-34 (2.05 PPG)

(1st is Gretzky in 1981-82, who scored 3.08 PPG at home!)

 

[The Panther]

Another one I find a bit odd. The best plus/minus results on the road only in one NHL season:

+57 Wayne Gretzky 1984-85
+50 Larry Robinson 1976-77
+48 Bobby Orr 1970-71
+40 Guy Lafleur 1976-77
+40 Steve Shutt 1976-77

That's it, in history, for players who went +40 or better on the road in one season (three of them are on the same club in the same season). Gretzky's 1984-85 is his best plus/minus season (+100 overall) and the best for a forward, ever, but why is his road result so great that particular season? His second best was +35 on the road in 1982-83 (11th place), and then third best was +27 in both 1983-84 and 1985-86 (44th and 45th place), but those are way off the 1984-85 number.