Confirmed Trade: [NYI/TOR] Pierre Engvall for 2024 3rd round pick

[MoreMogilny]

Appreciate the candor. I really mean this, if The Leafs had somehow found a way to keep their depth players. And they had a lot of quality depth. Kadri, Hyman, Brown, even when they acquired Mcann. They had Matt Martin and gave him away. I could see this team winning the cup. I agree 100% you need your depth players in the playoffs. What could have been I suppose. Sure Engvall could have produced more in the playoffs, but I am not sure this is the reason the Leafs have failed. Maybe the coach could double shift Marner with Engvall, Sorry I don't see Kampf productive even if he played with Marner. But Engvall there is certainly a chance to produce if he played a smidgeon with Marner.

I believe there has been a slight philosophical switch up by Dubas

At one point he described his desired offense as wave after wave of attack

It hasn’t played out that way. And I think it took him a long time to figure out that if he wanted to take that approach, then he couldn’t do it with an extremely top heavy lineup.

There’s no changing the core now, so he’s had to shift to bringing in a bit more grit and sacrificing some scoring in the process. Engvall is part of that sacrifice. You’re right, Kampf is not the centre to drive statistical success for someone like Engvall, but it was clear Keefe never saw him as part of the top 6 at all as he was never once tried there.

It’ll take 7 games or fewer for us to know if the refreshed approach was the right one. I’m definitely still concerned with the ability of the bottom 6 to put the puck in the net.

 

[Daz28]

It's fair to say Pierre and Lou are quite happy with this so far. Was clearly a low-risk good reward gamble if you weren't just going to join the conversation to comment on how "soft" he is.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

So what now moving Engvall was a big mistake. No matter what this team does, people are going to cry
All Leafs players and prospects are bums and a mistake to keep until we trade them then it was a mistake to trade them

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

By reading this thread I learned that Pierre Engvall is essentially a worse version of Andre Burakovsky. Pretty much word for word how Caps (and I assume Avs) fans would describe him: big and fast but soft as warm better, has laser of a shot, has a few terrific games in a row that make you think he’s really going to turn into something then goes through a 20 game stretch when you don’t even know if he’s playing or not, too often looks disinterested on the ice when he’s one of the more talented guys out there.

Good trade for the Isles. If there’s any team in the league that needs fewer plodders and grinders it’s them.

 

[Sergei Berezin]

Honestly he was gone in the off season anyway. Leafs can’t afford to give him any type of raise above $2M and if I were him, I would’ve looked elsewhere, too. Win-win for both sides (though I am in the camp that believes Leafs fans will regret turning/moving on from this guy).

 

[dubplatepressure]

So what now moving Engvall was a big mistake. No matter what this team does, people are going to cry
All Leafs players and prospects are bums and a mistake to keep until we trade them then it was a mistake to trade them

bingo.

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

What are Isles fans comfortable paying him on his next contract? I am guessing Lou didn't trade for him just so he can walk this offseason.

 

[Rebels57]

Still can't believe Engvall was moved for a 3rd but Fletcher couldn't find any takers for JVR for ANYTHING. Amazing lol

 

[Riseonfire]

What are Isles fans comfortable paying him on his next contract? I am guessing Lou didn't trade for him just so he can walk this offseason.

I'd like to see him finish out the year before throwing $ numbers out. I'd say a 4 year deal is a solid length though,

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Engvall shouldnt receive a multi year deal unless a team isnt planning on contending for that time. or so Ive been told no contending teams would ever have interest in Engvall

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Still can't believe Engvall was moved for a 3rd but Fletcher couldn't find any takers for JVR for ANYTHING. Amazing lol

Leafs should have flipped the Engvall pick for JVR.

I dont really want JVR and dont think he fits the team but it would be fun to say we have both players from the JVR-Schenn swap

 

[MikeyMike01]

Him and nr. 29 on the Isles look like twins!
https://images.aftonbladet-cdn.se/v...00&s=1c209c99b3bd1c78727af29a4831a7bae83adb0c

We removed a tooth from Nelson so we can tell them apart

 

[SI90]

It's good one of their trade acquisitions is doing something.

It happens

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Who's putting money on Engvall scoring against the leafs tomorrow?

 

[miscs75]

Who's putting money on Engvall scoring against the leafs tomorrow?

Engvall hat trick on Matt Murray tomorrow. Murray throws a tantrum and knocks the net off intentionally after giving up the 3rd goal to one of the longest necks in NHL history.

 

[AvatarAang]

It's good one of their trade acquisitions is doing something.

It happens

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Engvall hat trick on Matt Murray tomorrow. Murray throws a tantrum and knocks the net off intentionally after giving up the 3rd goal to one of the longest necks in NHL history.

 

[miscs75]

Who's putting money on Engvall scoring against the leafs tomorrow?

Engvall hat trick on Matt Murray tomorrow. Murray throws a tantrum and knocks the net off intentionally after giving up the 3rd goal to one of the longest necks in NHL history.

I’d say Matt Murray saved a puck but we all know that’s not happening.

 

[AvatarAang]

Engvall hat trick on Matt Murray tomorrow. Murray throws a tantrum and knocks the net off intentionally after giving up the 3rd goal to one of the longest necks in NHL history.

I’d say Matt Murray saved a puck but we all know that’s not happening.

Engvall hat trick?

the isles are averaging less than 3 goals per game, we all know that’s not happening.

 

[miscs75]

Engvall hat trick?

the isles are averaging less than 3 goals per game, we all know that’s not happening.

Sorry, Brock Nelson blows 3 shots over Murray’s shoulder and Engvall assists on all 3. Either way it results in an Islanders win. All wins in March are 4 goals except one vs Buffalo that was a 3-2 win.

 

[Mike C]

Who's putting money on Engvall scoring against the leafs tomorrow?

Nobody?

 

[HockeyVirus]

Engvall hat trick on Matt Murray tomorrow. Murray throws a tantrum and knocks the net off intentionally after giving up the 3rd goal to one of the longest necks in NHL history.

Murray isn't playing. Samsonov is our starting goalie.

 

[miscs75]

Murray isn't playing. Samsonov is our starting goalie.

They’ll chase him out too. Samuel Bolduc will have his first multi point game tomorrow.

 

[HockeyVirus]

Regardless, I can promise the main boards if they want Leaf fans to think losing Engvall is a bad thing that will never happen. He's exactly the type of player the Leafs are trying to get the opposite of.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

Nobody?

Are you asking me if the answer to my question is "nobody"?