Speculation: NSH interested in Marner

[shootpucktouchdown]

No leafs fan said anything about buying out marner. You literally just made that up

Player Discussion - Mitch Marner

I think Marner did a great job defending Pastrnak but I want the guy making north of 11 to produce offense. Tavares absolutely played his ass off and took a beating, all well and admirable but at an 11m cap hit, playing hard isn't enough. Need to play hard AND produce.

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[Porter Stoutheart]

Nashville and Carolina should be the only teams on that list. He's certainly not waiving to any of the others.
You can probably safely add Seattle, Dallas, and Vegas.

And Utah?

Friedman on Kyper and Bourne a week ago said the following:
- Marner wants 11.5-12 x 8
- 20+ teams will be willing to pay that if he hits UFA
- Teams have already begun calling about Marner

I'm inclined to believe Friedman regarding the point of teams calling. It doesn't have to mean there are advanced discussions, it's teams checking in to see what's going on as they are potentially interested

8x$12M is one thing for a UFA. I'd pay that too in Nashville. But I wouldn't trade much for 1 year of him at $10.9M and then no guarantees on what happens after that. He's a fine player, but he's not going to make any real difference to us for 1 year. Saros makes a ton more difference.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

And Utah?

Pretty unlikely. I doubt he has much interest in teams that missed the playoffs this year. Only reason I include Seattle is it's a big city near the coast without state tax

 

[13pacheco31]

Pretty unlikely. I doubt he has much interest in teams that missed the playoffs this year. Only reason I include Seattle is it's a big city near the coast without state tax

Seattle is a team I can see having a bounce back season. They aren't a bad team

 

[Leaf Fans]

Because that NTC is the difference of you getting a good goalie or not. Marner could say F it and stay in Toronto and Saros never comes to Toronto.

Sure. What trades has Marner rejected? Toronto can also refuse to trade Marner even if he wants to go. He only has a year left, and it not as if Toronto is stuck with the contract. Teams sometimes take a step back so they can take three steps forward.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Seattle is a team I can see having a bounce back season. They aren't a bad team

This too, they made the playoffs last year and also have a brand new arena. While Smith is a great new owner for the Utah Hockey Club they still don't have an arena yet and the attraction to the city just isn't as high as Seattle. I think the Kraken are much more appealing at this point in time

 

[13pacheco31]

This too, they made the playoffs last year and also have a brand new arena. While Smith is a great new owner for the Utah Hockey Club they still don't have an arena yet and the attraction to the city just isn't as high as Seattle. I think the Kraken are much more appealing at this point in time

It's just a matter of what Seattle would be willing to give up, cause despite what everyone is saying in this thread, I don't see the leafs giving away marner for anything less than a substantial package

 

[Johnsie19]

Nashville doesn't have the assets just from my perspective as a Toronto fan.

Saros is nice but he's 29 and you'll need to pay him at 30 years old for probably not his best years...and that costs what? 6.75-8.5M for 6-8 years? The last sub 6 foot goalie to win a cup was Tim Thomas.

Keep in mind the goaltending prospect portion of the pool looks fantastic - Woll needs to stay healthy, Hildeby is knocking on the door for NHL minutes and Akyamatov just won VHL playoff MVP & also looked good in his KHL call up.

The secondary pieces to fill the gap like a 1st, Wood etc all aren't that appealing.

I have to imagine another team could offer more.

It's basically the prime yrs of a goaltender. Late 20s to like 34. And Toronto is win now so it'd be a great fit I think.

 

[GeauxPreds1]

I’m open to getting Marner but I’m not open to trading top prospects for him. Saros tomasino and a pick is all I would want to do and that might even be to much. Does Marner and his 12 million potential contract make us a true contender? Maybe but I’m not sure. That’s a lot of cap for a team that has almost 12 million in dead cap. If I’m Marner and I don’t want to be in Toronto I would play this year out and choose my next destination. The ball is in marners court and if he only wants to waive to a few teams then that lowers the ask in my opinion. Toronto wanting a kings ransom isn’t gonna happen in my opinion.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

It's just a matter of what Seattle would be willing to give up, cause despite what everyone is saying in this thread, I don't see the leafs giving away marner for anything less than a substantial package

They won't get #8 or Wright if that's what you are wondering about. Zero chance on that

 

[13pacheco31]

They won't get #8 or Wright if that's what you are wondering about. Zero chance on that

I wasn't wondering, I'll say right now though, that would probably be the ask

 

[nbwingsfan]

Bob’s the only one paid like an elite forward in the cap era other than Vasi’s second cup where they had a 9.5mil LTIR boost to cancel out his raise and then some. There’s a lot more cap era examples of no name goalies making no name money going to the finals than there are of top of the pay scale guys.

You guys have been trying the “no name garbage goalie” for like 6 years now and you end up blaming the loss on them every single year.

The answer? More no name bad goalies, obviously!

 

[Leaf Fans]

You guys have been trying the “no name garbage goalie” for like 6 years now and you end up blaming the loss on them every single year.

The answer? More no name bad goalies, obviously!

That is your answer.

 

[Fatass]

And Utah?


8x$12M is one thing for a UFA. I'd pay that too in Nashville. But I wouldn't trade much for 1 year of him at $10.9M and then no guarantees on what happens after that. He's a fine player, but he's not going to make any real difference to us for 1 year. Saros makes a ton more difference.

Can’t go 8 years for a UFA. Limited to 7. Leafs have this extra year as their only leverage over Marner.

 

[Strangle]

Something around Marner and Nylander for jusi and saros?

Make this a blockbuster for the ages

 

[BHawk21]

Nashville and Carolina should be the only teams on that list. He's certainly not waiving to any of the others.
You can probably safely add Seattle, Dallas, and Vegas.

huh? I see your premise is playoff teams. I disagree with it but adding seattle?

 

[Soundgarden]

Something around Marner and Nylander for jusi and saros?

Make this a blockbuster for the ages

We're not trading Josi. And if we were moving BOTH we wouldn't be looking for wingers over 25.

 

[Strangle]

We're not trading Josi. And if we were moving BOTH we wouldn't be looking for wingers over 25.

Would be a hell of trade though, right?

Nashville needs offensive firepower and the leafs need defense and goaltending

Sounds like a match made in heaven, to me. Go hard or go home!

 

[Magic Man]

Juuse Saros - Extended at 9M per for 8 years
Logan L'Heureux
The highest of their 2024 2nd rd. picks

for

Mitch Marner - Extended at 11.5M per for 8 years
Dennis Hildeby

 

[Soundgarden]

Would be a hell of trade though, right?

Nashville needs offensive firepower and the leafs need defense and goaltending

Sounds like a match made in heaven, to me. Go hard or go home!

Trading an 80-95 point Norris winning defenseman when we need defensemen and offense doesn't make sense for us. I'd move Josi in a Ray Bouquien deal when he's 38-40, if he hasn't won a cup by then, otherwise he probably stays.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

I wasn't wondering, I'll say right now though, that would probably be the ask

Well then they will just look to pursue him in free agency instead

 

[13pacheco31]

Well then they will just look to pursue him in free agency instead

There's almost zero chance he goes to free agency. He's either getting traded and extended or if there's no viable option to trade, they will extend him.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Well then they will just look to pursue him in free agency instead

Yeah, Marner might choose to become a free agent next summer.

 

[Armourboy]

I don't see L'Heureux, or Molendyk being available. One is exactly the type of player Trotz wants, the other dang near made the team last season. I think just about anyone else would be available outside of Askarov and Evangelista.

 

[Soundgarden]

I don't see L'Heureux, or Molendyk being available. One is exactly the type of player Trotz wants, the other dang near made the team last season. I think just about anyone else would be available outside of Askarov and Evangelista.

Ideally, yes.