Seravalli: Noah Hanifin is holding the Calgary Flames hostage in trade talks

[SeanMoneyHands]

His return is going to be disappointing. Conroy should have traded his ass much earlier in the season. This is what happens when you give a player complete control calling the shots.

 

[3074326]

lol what a pathetic headline. Usually the writers at least try to act like they aren’t running PR for the teams. Not today

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Would be a great landing spot for him.

A pairing of Hanifin - Pietrangelo would elevate Vegas for best top D pairing in the NHL, probably only behind Toews - Makar.

 

[Mike Jones]

If he isn't willing to sign with a team the return will be at best a rental return.

Rental prices still aren't that bad. If Hanifan doesn't want to sign an extension with the team he's traded to then Conrioy has no option - work with the list Hanifan gives him and get the best return possible. It still beats letting Hanifan go out the door for nothing.

 

[BLONG7]

So you dont have to click it:
Hanifin has 8 team NTC
Why is it a problem?
His camp can tell interested teams that there's little interest in re-signing long-term, killing potential deals before they happen

Total jerk move by his camp........
Does this guy even move the needle for a team? Doesn't seem like he is all that?
Am I missing something?

 

[Jozay]

pray for the flames

 

[Kahvi]

His return is going to be disappointing. Conroy should have traded his ass much earlier in the season. This is what happens when you give a player complete control calling the shots.

How exactly this situation changed, assuming Hanifin gave Flames his NTC list at the start of the season.

 

[Mike Jones]

Total jerk move by his camp........
Does this guy even move the needle for a team? Doesn't seem like he is all that?
Am I missing something?

Jerk move? They're playing with the rules. They have the right to play their hand any way they want to. The same goes for Conroy and the Flames.

 

[Peter Griffin]

So you dont have to click it:
Hanifin has 8 team NTC
Why is it a problem?
His camp can tell interested teams that there's little interest in re-signing long-term, killing potential deals before they happen

This is why you don’t let other teams negotiate before a trade in these cases, effectively acts as a full NTC.

 

[AslanRH]

Rental prices still aren't that bad. If Hanifan doesn't want to sign an extension with the team he's traded to then Conrioy has no option - work with the list Hanifan gives him and get the best return possible. It still beats letting Hanifan go out the door for nothing.

Don't disagree, but if he does say he'd consider signing with the acquiring team, that rental 1st + prospect becomes closer to what it sounds like Conroy is looking for (1st + higher end prospect).

I don't think the rental return will be underwhelming, but if it is one of the teams he isn't eager to sign with, it will be muted

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

How exactly this situation changed, assuming Hanifin gave Flames his NTC list at the start of the season.

Hanifin has been toying with Flames management since last summer giving the media and fans wishy washy answers on his future with the club. Then he takes an eternity to decline the long term offer that Conroy put on the table. Conroy should have traded him last summer, the guy has had one foot out the door for over a full season now.

 

[gach]

Exactly - you reap what you sow.

I'm not a flames fan but I haven't heard the flames complain.

 

[Canucks LB]

It’s his right ? No trade clause. They gave it to him.

Exactly lol

 

[Kahvi]

Hanifin has been toying with Flames management since last summer giving the media and fans wishy washy answers on his future with the club. Then he takes an eternity to decline the long term offer that Conroy put on the table. Conroy should have traded him last summer, the guy has had one foot out the door for over a full season now.

So was the no trade list different in November compared what it is now?

 

[AlexGretzchenvid]

A pairing of Hanifin - Pietrangelo would elevate Vegas for best top D pairing in the NHL, probably only behind Toews - Makar.

I hope he signs for a couple years so they build chemistry.

 

[BB88]

Teams and Gm’s can trade players all they want but when players use their rights they are the bad guys

 

[GAGLine]

So was the no trade list different in November compared what it is now?

It's not about the NTC. Hanafin's agent can tell teams that Hanafin won't re-sign with them, effectively eliminating those teams as trade partners.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

So was the no trade list different in November compared what it is now?

Nobody knows for sure but my guess that it is. Hanifin is living in the moment.

 

[Mike Jones]

Don't disagree, but if he does say he'd consider signing with the acquiring team, that rental 1st + prospect becomes closer to what it sounds like Conroy is looking for (1st + higher end prospect).

I don't think the rental return will be underwhelming, but if it is one of the teams he isn't eager to sign with, it will be muted

Sure but rules are rules and Hanifan has every right to work within them to his advantage.

 

[Lacaar]

This thread is a hilarious example of how piss f***ing poor hockey fans are at critical thinking and really.. just the ability to read and infer. The statement has NOTHING to do with the NTC yet that's all that's being posted here.

To the brave few pointing out that it's Hanafin's leak of who he's willing to sign with I commend you.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

The implication here of course is that Hanifin is being unfair to the Flames for either:

1. Being unwilling to lie about his intentions
2. Being unwilling to commit to 7/8 years and sign somewhere he doesn't want to be.

 

[joestevens29]

So you dont have to click it:
Hanifin has 8 team NTC
Why is it a problem?
His camp can tell interested teams that there's little interest in re-signing long-term, killing potential deals before they happen

It's a problem for CGY because they are trying to trade him as a non-rental.

I mean can't call Hanifin a hostage taker when the Flames are the ones that gave him that NTC.

Not like this should be a surprise to Conroy. I know he's had a lot to deal with as a rookie GM, but not the players fault.

It's simple you ask is there any more teams you are willing to go to and try make the best trade you can.

Also don't think it's fair that a guy hitting free agency for the first time has this whole pressure of "you really should re-sign with us if get traded to us". Teams really like to have their cake and eat it too.

 

[Kahvi]

Nobody knows for sure but my guess that it is. Hanifin is living in the moment.

I dont think that is possible, if the list is sent to the team once per season.

It's not about the NTC. Hanafin's agent can tell teams that Hanafin won't re-sign with them, effectively eliminating those teams as trade partners.

It's not eliminating those teams, it just means rental instead of sign and trade, or trade and extension.

 

[joestevens29]

This thread is a hilarious example of how piss f***ing poor hockey fans are at critical thinking and really.. just the ability to read and infer. The statement has NOTHING to do with the NTC yet that's all that's being posted here.

To the brave few pointing out that it's Hanafin's leak of who he's willing to sign with I commend you.

Who cares, it's 100% in his right. Why should he have to sign with whoever trades for him?

 

[boredguy]

Wonder what Servalli is getting from Flames management for this pr piece. Dude is such a hack.