Prospect Info: Nick Suzuki Part 6

[26Mats]

Ugh Suzuki expected to be back on the 4th line. And KK with Byron and Lehky...

Well the good news is Armia didn't work well with them last year. So that might not last too long. Hopefully Suzuki gets a call soon if they make a change.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

He's playing the same minutes and he's playing against the same opposition, all he got was lesser linemates and... more time to get used to the league.

he's not necessarily playing 'more'. He just had a season low of 12 mins. I dont know about the same opposition.

I don't think you can possibly say that according to your preceding logic that your preferred deployment of Suzuki would be him playing with Thompson right?

 

[Mrb1p]

he's not necessarily playing 'more'. He just had a season low of 12 mins. I dont know about the same opposition.

I don't think you can possibly say that according to your preceding logic that your preferred deployment of Suzuki would be him playing with Thompson right?

Lines face similar level of competition anywhere they go, hockeys fluid and you rarely ever have a game where a player shadows another one. A few times you see it happen like with the Plekanec-Subban unit against Crosby in the POs, otherwise its mostly a game of cat and mouse played by the coaches. I dont really believe in what most call harder deployment, at least, not what they think it means. Lines do get deployed in specific zones or moments for sure, but not against players.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Lines face similar level of competition anywhere they go, hockeys fluid and you rarely ever have a game where a player shadows another one. A few times you see it happen like with the Plekanec-Subban unit against Crosby in the POs, otherwise its mostly a game of cat and mouse played by the coaches. I dont really believe in what most call harder deployment, at least, not what they think it means. Lines do get deployed in specific zones or moments for sure, but not against players.

well you're the one who said tougher match ups.

when I say deployment I mean him being on what is by rights our 4th line with Thompson. Like I said if we take the logic you've displayed towards KK for almost a year now how could you possibly like him with Thompson?

 

[Mrb1p]

well you're the one who said tougher match ups.

when I say deployment I mean him being on what is by rights our 4th line with Thompson. Like I said if we take the logic you've displayed towards KK for almost a year now how could you possibly like him with Thompson?

I didn't say I liked him with Thompson ? Gotta take the little wins you can get though. He's playing a regular shift and he's getting 16 minutes of ice.

I think Suzuki is getting used much better than Kotkaniemi is.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

I didn't say I liked him with Thompson ? Gotta take the little wins you can get though. He's playing a regular shift and he's getting 16 minutes of ice.

I think Suzuki is getting used much better than Kotkaniemi is.

not specifically with Thompson I just mean in general. His usage is pretty much in direct contradistinction to what you've said you want and or your prescribed way of developing prospects. He hasn't played 16 mins in 4 games. Last game was 12 mins. When he scored his goals he got 14 mins.

 

[Mrb1p]

not specifically with Thompson I just mean in general. His usage is pretty much in direct contradistinction to what you've said you want and or your prescribed way of developing prospects. He hasn't played 16 mins in 4 games. Last game was 12 mins. When he scored his goals he got 14 mins.

14-15-16 with PP time is fine by me, obviously in a perfect world he'd have better linemates but you take what you can get and thats what you can. 12 minutes is innaceptable though. I also care a lot less about Suzukis development than Kotkaniemi, they don't have the same pedigree and Suzuki is much closer to a finish product than Kotkaniemi who needs to be developed.

 

[DangerDave]

14-15-16 with PP time is fine by me, obviously in a perfect world he'd have better linemates but you take what you can get and thats what you can. 12 minutes is innaceptable though. I also care a lot less about Suzukis development than Kotkaniemi, they don't have the same pedigree and Suzuki is much closer to a finish product than Kotkaniemi who needs to be developed.

KK and Suzuki were projected to go around the same spot in the draft by many. Not sure why you would emphasize one guy's development over the other when they both have elite center potential. They should both be put in a position to succeed.

 

[Mrb1p]

KK and Suzuki were projected to go around the same spot in the draft by many. Not sure why you would emphasize one guy's development over the other when they both have elite center potential. They should both be put in a position to succeed.

I disagree. One was picked 3rd OA and rightfully so and the other was picked 13th and he doesn't look like he'd go much higher than that in a re-draft. Bob Mack had him in his top 5 while Suzuki was 12th on Macks list.

 

[DangerDave]

I disagree. One was picked 3rd OA and rightfully so and the other was picked 13th and he doesn't look like he'd go much higher than that in a re-draft. Bob Mack had him in his top 5 while Suzuki was 12th on Macks list.

Depends which list you look at. Most lists put either guy around 8 to 15. A few outliers here and there. Either way, development is a huge priority for both guys.

 

[Mrb1p]

Depends which list you look at. Most lists put either guy around 8 to 15. A few outliers here and there. Either way, development is a huge priority for both guys.

The only list that matters is Bobby macs as its the only one made by actual pros.

 

[26Mats]

14-15-16 with PP time is fine by me, obviously in a perfect world he'd have better linemates but you take what you can get and thats what you can. 12 minutes is innaceptable though. I also care a lot less about Suzukis development than Kotkaniemi, they don't have the same pedigree and Suzuki is much closer to a finish product than Kotkaniemi who needs to be developed.

We should be looking to the future. Both players' development should be such a priority that we shouldn't be talking about developing one at the expense of the other.

MB and CJ need to find a way to develop both.

 

[azcanuck]

You realize Domi is even worse than KK defensively?

Exactly why i said at least Suzuki is responsible defensively.
KK has not been good this year in the zone. He's running around too much.

 

[26Mats]

Exactly why i said at least Suzuki is responsible defensively.
KK has not been good this year in the zone. He's running around too much.

Something's going to have to change.

First thing is the pk. 2nd is the line combos. We had a good start offensively through 9 games. But that will wane. We'll need at least 3 good offensive lines. Suzuki needs to be a part of one of them, perhaps as a center.

 

[azcanuck]

Something's going to have to change.

First thing is the pk. 2nd is the line combos. We had a good start offensively through 9 games. But that will wane. We'll need at least 3 good offensive lines. Suzuki needs to be a part of one of them, perhaps as a center.

He's playing very well for a first year player. He's not going to light the league on fire . He's impressed me enough with his hockey I.Q. and high end skills to project we got a very good hockey player here.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Is it like when we were robbed of McDonaugh, but reverse?
Still can't believe we got that dude as a sweetener lol

I hate Marc Bergevin, and I hope he got canned ASAP but that trade was a masterpiece. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

 

[hvac412]

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He's playing very well for a first year player. He's not going to light the league on fire . He's impressed me enough with his hockey I.Q. and high end skills to project we got a very good hockey player here.

I like what I see too, needs to work on his leg strength but I'm sure that will be part of his development. Will he last 82 games?

 

[Hfbsux]

Is it like when we were robbed of McDonaugh, but reverse?
Still can't believe we got that dude as a sweetener lol

I hate Marc Bergevin, and I hope he got canned ASAP but that trade was a masterpiece. Gotta give credit where credit is due.

Tatar was almost considered as a cap dump by Vegas. They didn't play him in the playoffs and was taking 4M on their cap. Suzuki was the main piece in the trade. Great trade indeed!

 

[Redux91]

Good thing im patient, because I absolutely cannot wait to see what this kid looks like in 2-3 years

 

[Tyson]

Really starting to think he is in the NHL to stay. Promising young player. If he improves his quickness just a little bit he could become elite.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Good thing im patient, because I absolutely cannot wait to see what this kid looks like in 2-3 years

yeah solid so far. over came a pretty dismal start rather quickly and he's producing. gonna be a fun one.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Wonder if we will see a “kid” line with Poehling, KK, and Suzuki.

 

[The Great Weal]

Only thing I am upset about is him not shooting the puck enough.

 

[dackelljuneaubulis02]

Only thing I am upset about is him not shooting the puck enough.

can't wait till he gets that nutty shot going. He's no Caufield (though very very few are) but the kid's shot is fantastic.

 

[DangerDave]

Only thing I am upset about is him not shooting the puck enough.

It's just a question of confidence as I can see he's still nervous out there. Better than the first few games but I can tell he's not comfortable quite yet. Nerves should go away sooner rather than later.