What hardware? Stanley Cups on your dynasty team? Yeah no shit, stick Bure on a team with as many Hall of Famers as the Islanders had.
Contrary to ignorant belief, the generational differences are not beyond me. Dunno how many times I've ever had to say goalies of different eras are not to be compared, for example.Those guys played in a time before color was invented. The intro looked like an old episode of Popeye. I’m sure they were good but I’d also agree with you on Bure there.
Bure was the best hockey player I saw before he played for any of my teams. He was the enemy but watching him control BOTH ENDS OF THE ICE like no other in the manner that he did made me become a hockey fan and care more about more than just my team.Besides, if we just went down the list of production, there would be no surprises. If you start with Bure, you start with Bure. He’s my second favorite after Bossy. You never forget your childhood heroes.
Tis what video recording is for, it shows exactly what happened!I can only make my decision based on players I’ve seen play live.
I hate to say it, Denis Potvin wouldn't be the worst pick for us either...Hey, I spared us all and didn’t say Captain Potvin!
They don’t look very prolific to me. I guess they could only do so much without anything protecting their heads.Tis what video recording is for, it shows exactly what happened!
So Bure wins with a whopping 3 votes?Voting closes tomorrow morning at 9am. So far I have the following votes:
Bure- CHGoalie, pantherbot, IMclutc
Bossy- Rahooji
Roy- PSLGuy, StrangeVision
Morenz- DreadClawz, Cold Cat
Richard- Skippy
I need a single vote per person, if you name multiple I unfortunately cannot count them all.
So Bure wins with a whopping 3 votes?
it's next to impossible comparing players across just a few decades let alone a divide of almost a century. I can only vouch for players I've seen play, live or on tv, or heck even old replays. I'm not voting for players that I only hear about through second-hand. That's like posting on GDT's after reading the synopsis of a game, which now that I think about...probably happens more than we think lol
Well in that case, just forget about any player before 1960. They all suck. I can't find the reason in that sentiment. You have to make the best informed judgement you can.
If we were being graded on our choices I’d say this holds some water.
Not really. I voted Bossy because he’s the greatest offensive weapon I’ve had the pleasure of watching. I’m sure the frogs from the 40’s - 60’s were good. The numbers support them but I haven’t watched them play before. I know it’s a different sport but my mind goes to the offensive lines on Vince Lombardi’s packers averaging 250lbs and these teams are considered some of the best in history. It’s hard for me to imagine these players playing hockey as I know it. But I admit that is my problem.
But that's the problem. You're trying to transplant these players into today when that's not fair. You have to judge them against their peers. These players didn't have the benefit of evolution, modern science, nutrition, and training. They weren't coddled and given every advantage to succeed. I don't see how you can hold that against them. A 20 goal scorer from 100 years ago who was playing with a tree trunk for a hockey stick and had to worry about getting his head caved in in any given game gets way more respect from me than a 40 goal scorer of today who gets spoonfed success, flies in private team jets and plays in one of the best eras ever for offensive hockey. Especially because exactly 100 years ago, the nhl regular season was only 24 games.
But that's the problem. You're trying to transplant these players into today when that's not fair. You have to judge them against their peers. These players didn't have the benefit of evolution, modern science, nutrition, and training. They weren't coddled and given every advantage to succeed. I don't see how you can hold that against them. A 20 goal scorer from 100 years ago who was playing with a tree trunk for a hockey stick and had to worry about getting his head caved in in any given game gets way more respect from me than a 40 goal scorer of today who gets spoonfed success, flies in private team jets and plays in one of the best eras ever for offensive hockey. Especially because exactly 100 years ago, the nhl regular season was only 24 games.
That no-rat bastardBuild from the goal out - Roy
I loved Pavel Bure, electrifying is a fair description of his game. But, at least as a Panther, he was a cherry picker. Every game I got to go to, he was always hanging out in the NZ when puck was in FL's zone. He was never first into the corner for a loose puck, (although he'd often steal it from the guy he let go first). This isn't even meant as a knock on Bure, I'm sure this is exactly what the Panthers wanted from him. He was here to score goals and sell tickets, not to play on the defensive side of the puck. Electrifying was Bure when the puck came free to him while cherry picking out @ center.Contrary to ignorant belief, the generational differences are not beyond me. Dunno how many times I've ever had to say goalies of different eras are not to be compared, for example.
There's a bit to say for evolution, and if you put the likes of Morenz, Richard, or Sawchuk...or even Roy, Bossy, or Bure in today's feather-light skates with composite sticks, who knows what would come of it.
But I know this, after watching the HOUR worth of video several times over now, I see none of the cherry picking despite the claims from those that deserve as much respect as they give.
And he did all of it with no help from any hall of Famers.
I loved Pavel Bure, electrifying is a fair description of his game. But, at least as a Panther, he was a cherry picker. Every game I got to go to, he was always hanging out in the NZ when puck was in FL's zone. He was never first into the corner for a loose puck, (although he'd often steal it from the guy he let go first). This isn't even meant as a knock on Bure, I'm sure this is exactly what the Panthers wanted from him. He was here to score goals and sell tickets, not to play on the defensive side of the puck. Electrifying was Bure when the puck came free to him while cherry picking out @ center.