Confirmed Buy-Out [MTL] Karl Alzner

[FerrisRox]

I completely bashed this signing when it happened. Bergevin is a bad GM IMHO.

Cool.

Did you praise the signing of Ben Chariot as a great under the radar signing that was really going to help the Canadiens?

 

[Web In Front]

Cool.

Did you praise the signing of Ben Chariot as a great under the radar signing that was really going to help the Canadiens?

Chiarot really helped them finish 24th out of 31 teams.

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Cool.

Did you praise the signing of Ben Chariot as a great under the radar signing that was really going to help the Canadiens?

Nope. I had no real opinion on that signing. But i bashed Alzner's deal completely. Look up my old posts (i think you can search them, no?).

 

[FerrisRox]

Chiarot really helped them finish 24th out of 31 teams.

I think that you think you are making some kind of point here.

You are not.

 

[Web In Front]

I think that you think you are making some kind of point here.

You are not.

As a Leafs fan I hope Montreal never fires Bergevin. Ten more years, I say.

 

[danyhabsfan]

He was the worst defenseman in Laval too.

 

[Bounces R Way]

A disaster of a deal the second it was signed.

Maybe GMs will clue in that big physical exclusively defensive defenseman have a tendency to not age well. But I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[glenbuis]

As a Leafs fan I hope Montreal never fires Bergevin. Ten more years, I say.

Well I would sooner have bergevin over dubas any day . Sergachev and alzner were two blemishes for sure . Dubas ruined what could have been a good thing .

 

[sergejean]

Clearly a move of good faith towards the player and his agent. I get it. Having good working relationships is important.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

It wasn't Alzner's fault. The Habs were just too deep on defense, especially the left side!

He signed that contract and that first year had to fight for a spot all year against stalwarts like Jordie Benn, Joe Morrow, David Schlemko, Jakub Jerabek, Brett Lernout, Brendon Davidson, Rinat Valiev and Mark Reilly. Good times.

That same year Vic Mete emerged and started his Scott Gomez scoring streak!!

Then the defense improved with rocks like Xavier Ouellet and future HoFer Brett Kulak.

 

[ToDavid]

Well I would sooner have bergevin over dubas any day . Sergachev and alzner were two blemishes for sure . Dubas ruined what could have been a good thing .

It says a lot that you have specific examples of Bergevin's failures, but when it comes to Dubas its vague allegations that he "ruined" the team.

All of the Leafs' supposedly terrible contracts combined are probably less of an overpayment than Alzner (who will manage to suck up even more cap space this season, what a parting gift).

 

[Zahra Starker]

Hilarious. Is he still NHL quality?

He hasn't been nhl quality for 3 years now.

 

[Zahra Starker]

It says a lot that you have specific examples of Bergevin's failures, but when it comes to Dubas its vague allegations that he "ruined" the team.

All of the Leafs' supposedly terrible contracts combined are probably less of an overpayment than Alzner (who will manage to suck up even more cap space this season, what a parting gift).

Why are you so salty? Marner is heavily overpaid considering pastrnak, kucherov, stone, barkov, mackinnon, zibanejad, aho , Crosby, malkin, draisaitl, and many many more players make less considerably less money than him. He deserved about 8 mill on a 5 year deal. That 3mill overpaid for the next 4 years in a flat cap. On top Dubas traded Kadri for trash. He traded a good D for ceci a bottom pairing D at best making 5 mill.

 

[Rebels57]

Everyone knew it would end this way the day it was signed.

Bergevin repeated the same mistake with Edmundson just a few weeks ago.

He never learns.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Alzner played in only five of the seven games that series and posted an even plus/minus rating.

I really don't think he was a big reason they lost or any factor at all.

This will sound snarky but I'm not meaning it to be that way -- genuinely curious, did you watch that series at all or are you stat-picking?

Alzner's wife has to open jars for him because his hands are shot. His groin was shredded so he couldn't skate. His body was done and he looked every bit of it that year.

 

[Captain97]

Everyone knew it would end this way the day it was signed.

Bergevin repeated the same mistake with Edmundson just a few weeks ago.

He never learns.

Edmunson was the number 4/5 d on a cup winning team 2 years ago and can skate. If alzner could still skate he'd be playing still...

I feelblike the same was said about Chiarot.

 

[glenbuis]

It says a lot that you have specific examples of Bergevin's failures, but when it comes to Dubas its vague allegations that he "ruined" the team.

All of the Leafs' supposedly terrible contracts combined are probably less of an overpayment than Alzner (who will manage to suck up even more cap space this season, what a parting gift).

I’ll give it two years and when it becomes more clearer for you with the Matthews situation you’ll be wanting to hang dubas Yourself

 

[FerrisRox]

As a Leafs fan I hope Montreal never fires Bergevin. Ten more years, I say.

A Maple Leafs fan making fun of another team's General Manager is pretty damn hilarious.

 

[FerrisRox]

This will sound snarky but I'm not meaning it to be that way -- genuinely curious, did you watch that series at all or are you stat-picking?

Alzner's wife has to open jars for him because his hands are shot. His groin was shredded so he couldn't skate. His body was done and he looked every bit of it that year.

Yeah I watched the series. I will *always* watch Pittsburgh/Washington series, but especially during the careers of Sid and Ovie.

 

[Gamimenos]

Hilarious. Is he still NHL quality?

He barely produced enough to be AHL quality, let alone NHL.

 

[Canadienna]

This Josh Anderson move still really doesn't explain why they would buy out Alzner this year instead of next.

As far as I can tell it would have been more beneficial in every way to wait one more year, unless you need the cap space this year.

 

[Captain97]

This Josh Anderson move still really doesn't explain why they would buy out Alzner this year instead of next.

As far as I can tell it would have been more beneficial in every way to wait one more year, unless you need the cap space this year.

Buying alzner this year means the cap hit is lower next year. They need money next year not this one. So instead of having the hit be over two next year it is now under.

 

[Canadienna]

Buying alzner this year means the cap hit is lower next year. They need money next year not this one. So instead of having the hit be over two next year it is now under.

Ahh I misread the numbers on capfriendly. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[Captain97]

Ahh I misread the numbers on capfriendly. Thanks for pointing that out.

 

[DrewGl]

He was a quality Dman with the Caps for several years. The wear and tear of the NHL took its toll.