Most Valuable to the Leafs Organization
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Not an easy question to answer, they are all very important to this organization
They all have roles that are very important as far as I am concerned
A1LeafNation
Obsession beats talent everytime!!
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Atomos2
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Exactly. It's just a question I've been thinking about. Who would leave the most significant damage if he were to leave for another team or get moved to another team.
TheLeastOfTheBunch
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Babcock. Far reaching implications, not just the product on the ice. Makes Toronto a more attractive place for UFAs, for one.
SeenSchenn2
Itchin' For Mitch
Basically my thoughts as well. Luckily we have all of them!
It's like any business. You need good leadership, people, etc.
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Bomber0104
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Competent management should be an expectation for this franchise. I realize people aren't used to this yet.
1st overall talent is rare and should be much harder to come by.
1st overall talent is rare and should be much harder to come by.
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It's early but...Shanahan because contracts/accomplishments aside, there's no guarantee his replacement would want to retain his predecessor's hires. Wanted to go with the 1st just for what he could do on the ice, but a plan has to be in place to have the best odds of landing that player to begin with.
Menzinger
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It's hard to seperate them - but it's been Shanahan that brought the pieces all together.
He's smart enough to know that he doesn't have all the answers - and that's a very valuable trait to have in a guy running an organization.
He's smart enough to know that he doesn't have all the answers - and that's a very valuable trait to have in a guy running an organization.
Shanahan has been the most underrated hiring imo... Without shanahan there'd be no babcock, hunter, etc. He'll have a statue in legends row when we win the cup in 5-10 years ( I hope) 
I hate the question because they are all essential in their own regard.
We've had terrible management for ever; and everything starts from the psychology of management down.
It's like a CEO of a company and his rainmakers... you need the competent leadership and the people to deliver. You don't have one without the other. The business will fail without the best rainmakers and the business will fail without peopler guidance.
Burke/Wilson were just terrible in my opinion.
Without Babacock, Shanny, and Lou; we don't have the number 1 pick. If we still had Burke; it's extremely likely in my opinion we would have not tanked.
Let's just be happy we have Matthews + Marner + Rielly + Babcock + Shannahan + Lou + Nylander etc.
I know it's just a hypothetical; but there really isn't an answer because they are all important for success.
If a company has poor management; and great talented employees; they won't succeed because nobody will work. If you have a terrible coach, you cannot get the most out of your players.
They are equal.
I really love Shannahan and the leadership he has brought.
We've had terrible management for ever; and everything starts from the psychology of management down.
It's like a CEO of a company and his rainmakers... you need the competent leadership and the people to deliver. You don't have one without the other. The business will fail without the best rainmakers and the business will fail without peopler guidance.
Burke/Wilson were just terrible in my opinion.
Without Babacock, Shanny, and Lou; we don't have the number 1 pick. If we still had Burke; it's extremely likely in my opinion we would have not tanked.
Let's just be happy we have Matthews + Marner + Rielly + Babcock + Shannahan + Lou + Nylander etc.
I know it's just a hypothetical; but there really isn't an answer because they are all important for success.
If a company has poor management; and great talented employees; they won't succeed because nobody will work. If you have a terrible coach, you cannot get the most out of your players.
They are equal.
I really love Shannahan and the leadership he has brought.
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Shanny
He came in with a plan that we as fans can embrace that was going to require some pain and has not waverd or deviated from it the rest comes from that.
He has made decisions and hired according to that philosophy
Everyone else comes from that monumentus decision
He came in with a plan that we as fans can embrace that was going to require some pain and has not waverd or deviated from it the rest comes from that.
He has made decisions and hired according to that philosophy
Everyone else comes from that monumentus decision
Jimmy Firecracker
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Atomos2
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As of today? Probably Mark Hunter. If we want success moving forward we need to trust that his picks last draft and in the upcoming drafts are going to be studs.
I don't think anyone in the management office is really any different though. I'd say Matthews is after the management team. What they do will ultimately be more important than what 1 player does.
I don't think anyone in the management office is really any different though. I'd say Matthews is after the management team. What they do will ultimately be more important than what 1 player does.
Kyle, extraskater, Cam Charron....
...and the other analytics guys.
The last draft was the bomb. The free agents-to-trade pick ups were great. These "nerds" feed Babcock and Lou exactly what they need to do their job. This is the best last place machine in the history of last place machines.
...and the other analytics guys.
The last draft was the bomb. The free agents-to-trade pick ups were great. These "nerds" feed Babcock and Lou exactly what they need to do their job. This is the best last place machine in the history of last place machines.
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