MLD11 Draft Thread

[seventieslord]

Hergesheimer was in 5 straight MLDs and I thought he was about to slide out of this one.

 

[papershoes]

the morningstars select...

"cowboy" bill flett (rw) and bobby kromm (coach)

 

[Hedberg]

the morningstars select...

"cowboy" bill flett (rw) and bobby kromm (coach)

Flett is already gone.

 

[papershoes]

Flett is already gone.

thanks

we'll take peter sullivan (c) instead

 

[seventieslord]

Silky Sullivan!

I went to school with his son.

 

[seventieslord]

23 333 the can opener - Winnipeg Jets - ON THE CLOCK - 13 minites remaining
24 334 the can opener - Winnipeg Jets -
23 335 chaosrevolver - Belleville Bulls
24 336 chaosrevolver - Belleville Bulls

 

[Leafs Forever]

Found another draft list error:

22 288 Dreakmur & Leafs Forever - North Pole Dancers - Jimmy Skinner, Coach
21 289 Nalyd Psycho - Mighty Moose Of Manitoba - Pelle Eklund, C
22 290 Nalyd Psycho - Mighty Moose Of Manitoba - Jimmy Skinner, Coach

 

[seventieslord]

Found another draft list error:

22 288 Dreakmur & Leafs Forever - North Pole Dancers - Jimmy Skinner, Coach
21 289 Nalyd Psycho - Mighty Moose Of Manitoba - Pelle Eklund, C
22 290 Nalyd Psycho - Mighty Moose Of Manitoba - Jimmy Skinner, Coach

Jeez, quit being so critical!

I've fixed it.

 

[Leafs Forever]

Jeez, quit being so critical!

I've fixed it.

Just trying to help

Does anyone care to offer an opinion on who the North Pole Dancers captain should be?

 

[VanIslander]

Does anyone care to offer an opinion on who the North Pole Dancers captain should be?

Santa or Rudolph

One is better in the room and one is a better leader on the ice, in the thick of things.

 

[Leafs Forever]

Santa or Rudolph

One is better in the room and one is a better leader on the ice, in the thick of things.

But seriously, I am unsure. Ricci and Babych make good A's I think, but not so much C's.

 

[Rzeznik]

But seriously, I am unsure. Ricci and Babych make good A's I think, but not so much C's.

Al Arbour? Andy Blair perhaps? I don't know, I'm just tossing possibilities out there.

 

[Leafs Forever]

Al Arbour? Andy Blair perhaps? I don't know, I'm just tossing possibilities out there.

Don't think Blair was evera captain.

Al Arbour is a possibility, I am just unsure of having a captain on the bottom defence pairing.

 

[chaosrevolver]

F - Arthur Farrell

1899 Stanley Cup Champion
1900 Stanley Cup Champion

He joined the Montreal Shamrocks in 1897 as a forward and played on two Stanley Cup winning teams in 1899 and 1900. He once scored five goals in a game against Quebec on March 2, 1901, and was known as one of the men responsible for moving the focus of hockey from individual play to team, or "combination," play.

D - Pavel Kubina

 

[Hedberg]

F - Arthur Farrell

Farrell was already selected.

 

[chaosrevolver]

K um...

RW - Lasse Oksanen

Lasse Oksanen might be the most talented Finnish hockey player ever. For 8 straight seasons, from 1965 until 1972, he earned the right wing spot of the all-star team in Finland. A member of the IIHF Hall of Fame, Oksanen played 282 games, scoring 101+58=159 points in the Finnish national team. He was regarded as the best Finnish player of his generation.

 

[VanIslander]

Is The Picking All Done?

Are we going to have an add/drop period?

How long do we have before regular season rankings are to be submitted? (Not too soon for analysis, not too long away for interest's sake)

 

[chaosrevolver]

Canopener hasnt made his picks..

 

[VanIslander]

Canopener hasnt made his picks..

I am shocked...

 

[Hedberg]

Canopener hasnt made his picks..

I think GBC has one more pick as well.

 

[seventieslord]

Yes, can opener has two more and GBC has one more. can man is apparently at home and his internet wasn't working as of a couple hours ago. We may hear from him tonight.

I'm looking at about 5 days for analysis. What does everyone think?

 

[seventieslord]

F Fred "Steamer" Maxwell

- Height unknown, 135 lbs.
- Member of the HHOF
- Manitoba Senior League Champion (1911, 1914, 1915)
- Allan Cup (1915)
- MSHL 2nd All-Star Team (1912)

Fred Maxwell picked up the nickname "Steamer" in his native Winnipeg because of his tremendous ability to skate. In 1910-11 he joined the Winnipeg Monarchs as a rover in the Manitoba Senior League, scored six goals in five regular season games, and was named to the league's second All-Star team. The next year he tallied seven goals in seven games for the Monarchs.

By 1913 he was offered a $1,500 contract to play for the Toronto Blueshirts of the NHA but refused the inducement, choosing to remain in Winnipeg. In 1914 the Monarchs won the Manitoba Senior Hockey title with Maxwell scoring three goals and two assists. He was then offered an $1,800 contract to play in the PCHA but again refused a professional offer and remained a pure amateur and led Winnipeg to another senior title and the Allan Cup in 1915.

A speedy terror on ice, a rover in seven-man hockey who was born to skate... he refused all professional contract offers...

A man of deep principles, he retired as a player in 1916, when he discovered that some of his teammates had received gifts and money to play for Winnipeg Monarchs, the 1914-15 Allan Cup Champions

 

[seventieslord]

RW Art Farrell

- Size Unknown
- Member of the HHOF
- Stanley Cup (1899, 1900)
- Stanley Cup Finalist (1901)
- 5th, 3rd, 2nd in scoring in his 3 CAHL seasons (1899, 1900, 1901)
- 3rd, 2nd in Stanley Cup scoring (1899, 1900)

He began his hockey career at College Sainte-Marie while studying there from 1895 to 1897 with future Shamrock teammates Harry Trihey, Fred Scanlan, and ******. He joined the Montreal Shamrocks in 1897 as a forward and played on two Stanley Cup winning teams in 1899 and 1900. He once scored five goals in a game against Quebec on March 2, 1901, and was known as one of the men responsible for moving the focus of hockey from individual play to team, or "combination," play.

After his retirement from hockey Farrell worked with his father in the family retail business and wrote what appears to be the first book on hockey in 1899. The book contained a section on the history of hockey and another section explaining how to play the game. Farrell's second publication appeared in a series of sports books put out by Albert Goodwill Spalding in 1904. A third book in the series was published in 1907 and reissued in 1910. It outlined the origins of hockey, and the rules in Canada and the United States, and included comments by Canadian hockey stars on the art of playing various positions.

This threesome revolutionized the game in that they stressed passing and teamwork over individual rushing and singular play.

He was a stylish player, along the lines of a Joe Primeau or a Syl Apps.

In a 1925 article Patrick was asked to select his all-time all-star team. Here's what he said:

"My opinion is based on consistency of players over a period of years, and the fact that men selected possessed nearly all the fundamentals of an ideal player - physique, stamina, courage, speed, stick-handling, goal-getting ability, skill in passing, proper temperament and, above all, hockey brains."

Patrick selected Hughie Lehman in goal, Sprague Cleghorn and Hod Stuart on defence, and up front he chose Tom Phillips, Arthur Farrell and Fred "Cyclone" Taylor.

Check out Farrell's book if you haven't seen it! A true piece of Canada's hockey history! It's all reproduced with character recognition, and is fully downloadable!

Here are some fascinating quotes that demonstrate, respectively, his thoughts on mentality, sportsmanship, planning, guts, teamwork, the law of diminishing returns, what to do in "The office", playing your position, backchecking, stick checking, and obstruction:

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The very adhering to the rules, the spirit of fair play that characterizes a manly game, the overcoming of all fears and all difficulties, the modest victory, the frank acknowledgement of defeat, all tend to build up, to educate, the mental faculties, just as the long practice, the swift race, and the hard check help to develope the physical man.

Surrounded so closely by thousands of inquisitive eyes, the hockey player is a most prevented, through the reasonable fear of being promptly called to order, from indulging in any unbecoming work, of which, perhaps, in other games he might be guiîty. Besides, the referee of a hockey match is so strongly backed by a clear code of rules, and has such an unobstructed view of the game, that the strict and continued observance of his omnipotence developes a certain character in a player, that has its good effects in after life.

As a hockey axiom, it might be said that "it is better to think more and rush less, than
to rush more and think less." The cool, collected, calculating player is worth more to a team than two or three of the class whose main object seems to be the possession of the puck for a 'big" rush down the ice. If any man among your opponents îs to be feared, let it be the one who thinks out each move, who makes no useless plays, who shoots for the goals only when there is an opening, because "such men are dangerous." Many a game is lost, many a chance is missed by the man who will not, cannot take time enough to think out a play.

Pluck is an essential to a man who aspires to perfection in the game, and is as indispensable to him as it is to a footballer or a soldier. The calculating player often saves himself by avoiding unnecessary dangers, but occasion demands, at times, a fast rush through a "bunch " of fighting players, through swinging, smashing sticks that, in noise and movements, resemble a threshing machine,—a desperate jump, or a block of the puck, at the expense of a sore punishment. to score or save a single goal, and the risk must be run. The cringer, the man who waits outside of a scrimmage until by chance the puck slides to him, the man who fears an opponent, is not a hockey player.

When it is said that every player of a team should strain nerve and muscle to score a goal, the meaning is not that each individual member should strive to do the act himself, but that he should use every effort to assist him to score who is in the most advantageous positíon to do so, The selfish desire on the part of even one man, to make the point, oftentimes entails the loss of a match. Although by nearing his opponents' defence with the puck a player naturally approaches the position from which to shoot, he will invariabiy confuse his adversaries more successfully, and often secure for himself, or his partner, a much more desirable vantage ground, by passing the puck to the latter, before reaching the cover-point. Indeed, if the question of praise be mentioned, there îs often more due to the player vvho assists by a clever bit of combination work, than to the man who scores the game.

It is possible to indulge even too much in combination work, necessary as it is on most occasions, and, thus, the virtue may be turned into a vice, It should not be played too freely by men in front of their own goals, and as it is merely a means to an end, an over indulgence in it is a loss of time, of which hockey is too fast a game to allow.

One of the most successful, and, perhaps, the most neglected of combination plays is the following: when a player secures the puck behind or to the side of his opponents' goals, he should, if he has time, s ide it to his assistant who is in the best positîon to receive it, or, if not, to the s de vvhere he knows that one of his men, by a preconcerted, practiced arrangement, awaíts it, but he should never send it with a blind, trust-to-luck shot directly in front of the goals, because the point and cover point should be, and usually are, stationed there. This símple play is often attended with great success. To guard against this play the defence men and forwards of the attacked goals should, see that, when the puck is around the goal line, each of their opposing forwards is carefully
checked.

Each player of a team should occupy his position so unfailingly in practice, and the team should indulge in combination work to such an extent, that, in a match, a forward ought, at times, to be able to slide the puck to an assistant without even having to look to know where the latter is.

At least two men should be in front, in order to follow np any attack that their opponents might make on their goals, It is surprising how much trouble can be caused a forward line by a persistent forward who nags at them from behind. He can often break up a combination, and create more confusion among them than a defence man, because they know what to expect from the latter and are on the lookout for him, but find it difficult to deal with a fast man who bothers them in this way, It is in this work that a fast skater shows to advantage.

A man should check hîs opponent's stick heavily, as a gentle stroke, an easy check, has seldom any effect.

There seems to be a growing tendency now-a-days to resort to football tactics in hockey. Among some of the senior teams the practice of interference is becoming prominent, and should be severely checked, because it is an unfailing cause of unnecessary roughness. No player, however mild, who is rushing down the ice to secure an advantageous position, will allow himself to be deliberately interrupted, stopped by an opponent who has not, and should not have the right to oppose his course, without picking a bone or two with him.

 

[God Bless Canada]

Weyburn Red Wings round out their roster by selecting a big, mobile defenceman who can play in all situations. He has led the league in ice time the last two seasons: D Jay Bouwmeester.

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

I'm leaving for vacation in a little bit, and will try to be a part of the next round as much as I can, but I won't be able to participate as much as I otherwise would.