Player Discussion Matt Grzelcyk

[goldenblack]

This guy approached Rask levels for drama

 

[Hookslide]

Wonder if Montreal has space and/or interest.

Montreal is not in need of D..........

 

[neelynugs]

gryz is better suited to play the old maple leafs, who just whizzed around doing spin-o-ramas. the current version is
much more treliving-like, which isn't a good fit for 48. also love lohrei getting a look. if he's going to be a big part
of your future, get the kid playoff reps now.

 

[ODAAT]

good on Monty , can`t be easy to have to talk to a vet and let him know he`s sitting for a playoff tilt

 

[DominicT]

good on Monty , can`t be easy to have to talk to a vet and let him know he`s sitting for a playoff tilt

Probably got Celine Dion to tell him.

 

[Sheppy]

gryz is better suited to play the old maple leafs, who just whizzed around doing spin-o-ramas. the current version is
much more treliving-like, which isn't a good fit for 48. also love lohrei getting a look. if he's going to be a big part
of your future, get the kid playoff reps now.

Grzelcyk is a better in a series against the Hurricanes (if it ever comes to that)

 

[DaStinger]

Probably got Celine Dion to tell him.

Or Dad came up from under the ice

 

[HustleB]

You mean Heinen's don't you?

Wait do you think Laulo gives the team more then Heinen?

Gryz is where he is. I hope he plays great hockey if he gets back in. I won't cry if he doesn't. I do think Lohrei makes a lot of mistakes but if we keep winning I'll keep a lid on it.

 

[goldenblack]

Grzelcyk is a better in a series against the Hurricanes (if it ever comes to that)

Man they are BIG. I dunno.

 

[I am Bettman]

Lohrei is not ready for playoff hockey, maybe he won’t get pushed around, but he also doesn’t make the right plays with the puck in the d zone. He is always turning the puck over off of recoveries. He will be good for us soon, but he is just not ready yet in that aspect. Gryz almost always makes the right play, and when he doesn’t, it is usually a low danger turnover or a 50/50 puck. Lohrei’s recovery mistakes are generally straight to the other team in moderate danger areas.

 

[DaBroons]

Lohrei is not ready for playoff hockey, maybe he won’t get pushed around, but he also doesn’t make the right plays with the puck in the d zone. He is always turning the puck over off of recoveries. He will be good for us soon, but he is just not ready yet in that aspect. Gryz almost always makes the right play, and when he doesn’t, it is usually a low danger turnover or a 50/50 puck. Lohrei’s recovery mistakes are generally straight to the other team in moderate danger areas.

Griz never passes the eye test, but in some metrics (e.g., 3rd among D in +/- behind only Carlo and Lindholm), he looks pretty good, but then I'm not a metrics expert.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

Lohrei is not ready for playoff hockey, maybe he won’t get pushed around, but he also doesn’t make the right plays with the puck in the d zone. He is always turning the puck over off of recoveries. He will be good for us soon, but he is just not ready yet in that aspect. Gryz almost always makes the right play, and when he doesn’t, it is usually a low danger turnover or a 50/50 puck. Lohrei’s recovery mistakes are generally straight to the other team in moderate danger areas.

he will learn.
gryz should not see the ice again unless injuries

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Lohrei is not ready for playoff hockey, maybe he won’t get pushed around, but he also doesn’t make the right plays with the puck in the d zone. He is always turning the puck over off of recoveries. He will be good for us soon, but he is just not ready yet in that aspect. Gryz almost always makes the right play, and when he doesn’t, it is usually a low danger turnover or a 50/50 puck. Lohrei’s recovery mistakes are generally straight to the other team in moderate danger areas.

still played better than Gryz

 

[ODAAT]

Probably got Celine Dion to tell him.

classic, needed the laugh, thx as always

 

[Yeti34]

This guy just plane sucks. Liability out there in the playoffs and you got bonehead Monty out coaching himself with his stupid roster changes. Soft as hell. He doesn’t even have a good first pass anymore. If Monty wants to keep his job we don’t see Gryz again.

How people on these boards defended Gryz all season is beyond me. He is not a NHL caliber dmen anymore.

 

[Clode]

Get him the f*ck out of here yesterday!

 

[Fenian24]

Probably gets a PTO with Chicago next year, Monty thinks it's a good idea to play him in a close out game. And his analytic fan club will still defend him. Get rid of him now

 

[I am Bettman]

I thought this was one of his best games of the year. I’m guessing that will be a very unpopular opinion, but his first passes were great. He is not at fault at all for the ot goal, that blame is shared equally by Coyle and Mcavoy. He kept Domi from getting directly to the net and was able to keep Domi from being anywhere near the net after his drive. I really don’t understand how anybody can watch him today and have a problem with him.

 

[Number8]

I thought this was one of his best games of the year. I’m guessing that will be a very unpopular opinion, but his first passes were great. He is not at fault at all for the ot goal, that blame is shared equally by Coyle and Mcavoy. He kept Domi from getting directly to the net and was able to keep Domi from being anywhere near the net after his drive. I really don’t understand how anybody can watch him today and have a problem with him.

He was overpowered right from the get go. He made two extremely poor turnovers in his own zone on each of his first two shifts. The result was the Bruins got hemmed in their own zone for substantial periods of time at the very beginning of the game. I believe that gave Toronto life and made the Bruins, for some reason, play nervous.

Then he made an excellent d play and saved a goal.

It was not Domi it was Tavares. And he got absolutely walked by a slow skating John Tavares and then completely overpowered going to net directly leading the the GWG. Did not stop him from getting to the net, didn’t stop the puck from getting to the net. Tavares walked through him like a knife through soft butter. And he was in great position to stop exactly that. To weak by far.

The net result of all of this was back breaking.

If Carlo is out and Gryz plays in G6 I suspect they will have problems. Big problems.

 

[Sheppy]

I don’t need to see this guy ever again.

Which means I’ll see him Thursday.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

I thought this was one of his best games of the year. I’m guessing that will be a very unpopular opinion, but his first passes were great. He is not at fault at all for the ot goal, that blame is shared equally by Coyle and Mcavoy. He kept Domi from getting directly to the net and was able to keep Domi from being anywhere near the net after his drive. I really don’t understand how anybody can watch him today and have a problem with him.

You are spot on for the most part (it was Tavares, and Gryz had a very shaky start to the game) but a lot of fans here don’t understand the game so they’ll blame Gryz for the loss.

 

[bp14]

You are spot on for the most part (it was Tavares, and Gryz had a very shaky start to the game) but a lot of fans here don’t understand the game so they’ll blame Gryz for the loss.

He can’t be blamed for the loss when the team only competes for 25 minutes, but he’s a playoff liability. He spent the first two periods in his own end, and then got turned starting from zero with a 35 year old.

He’s a playoff scratch of an NHL player. This yearly experiment should end.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

He can’t be blamed for the loss when the team only competes for 25 minutes, but he’s a playoff liability. He spent the first two periods in his own end, and then got turned starting from zero with a 35 year old.

He’s a playoff scratch of an NHL player. This yearly experiment should end.

That last play he forces a one handed shove of the puck to the side of the net where 3 Bruins (Sway,Coyle,Mac) were waiting.

That’s one of the better outcomes on that specific play. He’s not going to body Tavares, he’s old but he’s still big. If he overcommits and attacks the puck while Tavares is holding it to the outside that’s a prime penalty call waiting to happen if Tavares flops. Or Tavares just spins on him .

There’s zero reason to be super aggressive on Tavares in that instance when you have a shit ton of support at the net.

Mac and Coyle puck watched and that’s the reason the puck ended up in the net

 

[bp14]

That last play he forces a one handed shove of the puck to the side of the net where 3 Bruins (Sway,Coyle,Mac) were waiting.

That’s one of the better outcomes on that specific play. He’s not going to body Tavares, he’s old but he’s still big. If he overcommits and attacks the puck while Tavares is holding it to the outside that’s a prime penalty call waiting to happen if Tavares flops. Or Tavares just spins on him .

There’s zero reason to be super aggressive on Tavares in that instance when you have a shit ton of support at the net.

Mac and Coyle puck watched and that’s the reason the puck ended up in the net

I see that as wishful thinking, but you almost make my point. The fact he can’t prevent a puck from getting in front of the net from where he started is why he doesn’t play in April. You simply have to have either the legs or the strength to force him wider or to a curl on the wall. Gryz has neither. He’s a playoff press box guy.

 

[Gonzothe7thDman]

I see that as wishful thinking, but you almost make my point. The fact he can’t prevent a puck from getting in front of the net from where he started is why he doesn’t play in April. You simply have to have either the legs or the strength to force him wider or to a curl on the wall. Gryz has neither. He’s a playoff press box guy.

That play Tavares made is so low percentage that most dmen in that situation is going to let it happen rather than get super aggressive and risk a penalty on a nothing play. 9/10 times a one handed shove of the puck towards the net is just giving up possession by the offensive player.

It should have been the exact same thing here if Mac and Coyle did their jobs.