Speculation: Matt Duchene Mega-Megathread | Volume IV

[DramaticGloveSave]

So is Drouin going to start at center? When was the last time he played C, and how do you guy's think he will fare? Edit: might have misread your post BatVader.

He played center 1 of his 2 monster junior years, his AHL year, and then some last year. He wants to play center, and Montreal needs centers.

I think Montreal is certainly trying to get Duchene, but they aren't going to overpay. Duchene has an all around game that would complement Drouin in the top 6.

But if we can't get Duchene, I think we're content with Danault or perhaps Galchenyuk on the second line.

 

[Foppberg]

I still feel like Calgary could be a dark horse to get him.

 

[Liver King]

The only way I can see Sakic pulling the trigger with Montreal is that he likes Mete. Mete+Juulsen+smaller pieces could be more enticing rather than Murray.

And Ottawa only fits if they like Ceci, which I don't believe they do.

Murray seems to make the most sense in a package

 

[Goulet17]

The only way I can see Sakic pulling the trigger with Montreal is that he likes Mete. Mete+Juulsen+smaller pieces could be more enticing rather than Murray.

Mete + Juulsen?

It is just really hard to see the Avs interested in that package.

 

[VikingAv]

CBJ make the most sense

MTL doesn't have a damn of interest but possibly a deal that works

OTT was interested a while ago but I don't see a deal happening there either

NSH has Ellis hurt so I'm assuming that changes things

Wrt the bolded; I think it's the complete opposite. MTL has a lot of interest, but not a damn deal that works. That went out the window with Sergachev imo. Also, if a futures -only package is all of a sudden ok, then the Isles can offer a much better deal than MTL.

 

[Liver King]

Wrt the bolded; I think it's the complete opposite. MTL has a lot of interest, but not a damn deal that works. That went out the window with Sergachev imo. Also, if a futures -only package is all of a sudden ok, then the Isles can offer a much better deal than MTL.

Lmao sorry that was supposed to say d-man not damn lol

But yes MTL should be all over it..not sure if they have the pieces like you said

 

[The Great Weal]

Mete + Juulsen?

It is just really hard to see the Avs interested in that package.

Hence my original point. However, if I'm being totally neutral, you can kind of make a case for that package. Mete and Juulsen have top 4 potential, and if Murray doesn't improve that much while those guys reach their potential, I'd take the two guys depending what else is added to Murray.

 

[JoemAvs]

Hence my original point. However, if I'm being totally neutral, you can kind of make a case for that package. Mete and Juulsen have top 4 potential, and if Murray doesn't improve that much while those guys reach their potential, I'd take the two guys depending what else is added to Murray.

Yeah but these guys are atleast another year away from the NHL if they ever make it.
Which no one can accurately predict.

Carlsson and Murray are just way more enticing than Mete or Juulsen because we know they atleast will be NHL players starting next season. I mean almost everyother team has better options for the Avs when we are talking prospects + picks deal.

There is no realistic deal to MTL that involves prospects only coming from MTL.

Literally no chance at all IMO...

Only way Duchene to MTL happens isif the Avs really like Galchenyuk or Lehkonen and Bergevin is willing to pull out the stops to get it done while other GMs are not as willing to give up the farm.

Otherwise they will simply get outbid quite easily IMO...

 

[GeauxPreds1]

CBJ make the most sense

MTL doesn't have a d-man of interest but possibly a deal that works

OTT was interested a while ago but I don't see a deal happening there either

NSH has Ellis hurt so I'm assuming that changes things

I think with ellis out and bonino banged up still poile might get more desperate to get more scoring and offer a bigger package fabbro kamanev/aberg smith 2018 1st 2018 2nd 2019 1st

 

[JohnnyO]

He played center 1 of his 2 monster junior years, his AHL year, and then some last year. He wants to play center, and Montreal needs centers.

I think Montreal is certainly trying to get Duchene, but they aren't going to overpay. Duchene has an all around game that would complement Drouin in the top 6.

But if we can't get Duchene, I think we're content with Danault or perhaps Galchenyuk on the second line.

Thanks, I haven't really followed him much, if he works out at center that would be great for you guys.

 

[Habs Halifax]

The only way I can see Sakic pulling the trigger with Montreal is that he likes Mete. Mete+Juulsen+smaller pieces could be more enticing rather than Murray.

Good point. Would you give up both Mete and Juulsen and more? From a Habs perspective, it's makes our defense prospects very shallow

 

[LaP]

Yeah but these guys are atleast another year away from the NHL if they ever make it.
Which no one can accurately predict.

I really don't understand the "Sakic wants a roster player" thing.

He's not on a position to want a roster player. A roster player serves the Avs no purpose at all. It's not a team that is one roster player away from being good. It's unlikely Sakic will get a top prospect ready to dominate now for Duchene. He might. Columbus did wit Jones. But it's far from certain at this point with all the drama around Duchene.

If Sakic aims for a roster player he might end up like the Bruins with Seguin. An average roster player and a bunch of so so prospects.

If he absolutely must trade Duchene because Duchene is done in Colorado he should trade him for the best value. If the best value is picks and guys who were drafter last year then so be it. It's what he should do imo.

 

[Azrael89]

I really don't understand the "Sakic wants a roster player" thing.

He's not on a position to want a roster player. A roster player serves the Avs no purpose at all. It's not a team that is one roster player away from being good. It's unlikely Sakic will get a top prospect ready to dominate now for Duchene. He might. Columbus did wit Jones. But it's far from certain at this point with all the drama around Duchene.

If Sakic aims for a roster player he might end up like the Bruins with Seguin. An average roster player and a bunch of so so prospects.

If he absolutely must trade Duchene because Duchene is done in Colorado he should trade him for the best value. If the best value is picks and guys who were drafter last year then so be it. It's what he should do imo.

I bet Landeskog, MacKinnon, Barrie, Varlamov, and Johnson would all be overjoyed to get no immediate help in the Duchene trade. Not to mention how that would be received by the fan base. From a team like Montreal it would have to include a roster player because the prospects they have are all meh at this point.

 

[Kimota]

Even though it would pain me as a Habs fan, a deal around our first pick of 2017, Gallagher and Jolsen would be more than interesting for the Avs. You would have two good pieces for a rebuild.

 

[Azrael89]

Even though it would pain me as a Habs fan, a deal around our first pick of 2017, Gallagher and Jolsen would be more than interesting for the Avs. You would have two good pieces for a rebuild.

I think the Avs would probably accept a Murray+ deal from Columbus or see how many firsts and prospects the NYI are willing to part with before they accepted your proposal. It's gonna be hard for Montreal to pull this off.

 

[ichabod13]

if a futures -only package is all of a sudden ok, then the Isles can offer a much better deal than MTL.

as an islanders fan i sure as hell hope they dont.

 

[ichabod13]

I think the Avs would probably accept a Murray+ deal from Columbus or see how many firsts and prospects the NYI are willing to part with

personally, i dont think the islanders should offer even one first round pick for duchene. the islanders have 2 first round picks in 18, i would be more than happy if they were both traded to florida for vincent trocheck, and i would be extremely pissed off if either of them were traded to colorado for matt duchene.

 

[CBJx614]

I think Jarmo is most likely doing the right thing. Offering what he can afford, knowing he doesn't have to make a deal and is fine with what he has going into the season. Pressure is on Sakic so if he wants to move Duchene he's gonna have to settle and meet Jarmo at least half way if not more.

But the pressure will definitely start to build on Sakic if Duchene doesn't report..

 

[Mighty Makar]

Even though it would pain me as a Habs fan, a deal around our first pick of 2017, Gallagher and Jolsen would be more than interesting for the Avs. You would have two good pieces for a rebuild.

I would be okay with that.

 

[CraigsList]

I still feel like Calgary could be a dark horse to get him.

How so?

 

[The Great Weal]

Yeah but these guys are atleast another year away from the NHL if they ever make it.
Which no one can accurately predict.

Carlsson and Murray are just way more enticing than Mete or Juulsen because we know they atleast will be NHL players starting next season. I mean almost everyother team has better options for the Avs when we are talking prospects + picks deal.

There is no realistic deal to MTL that involves prospects only coming from MTL.

Literally no chance at all IMO...

Only way Duchene to MTL happens isif the Avs really like Galchenyuk or Lehkonen and Bergevin is willing to pull out the stops to get it done while other GMs are not as willing to give up the farm.

Otherwise they will simply get outbid quite easily IMO...

Are the Avs planning on winning as early as next season? I don't think CBJ would offer those 2. Good for other teams, but my point still stands Juulsen and Mete are enticing as they can both be top 4 dmen.

Good point. Would you give up both Mete and Juulsen and more? From a Habs perspective, it's makes our defense prospects very shallow

Yes. The putrid AHL staff will ruin them, and it will take a while for those guys to make an impact.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Something the Habs have is cap space. We could throw in Plekanec with 100% of his salary retained. I think while he's overpayed he's still the type of veteran centerman the avs would like to have to mentor the kids. Obviously he'd only be a complementary piece, but added to say Mete, plus a forward prospect, plus a pick, he'd be a good add that I think Sakic would value.

 

[The Great Weal]

Something the Habs have is cap space. We could throw in Plekanec with 100% of his salary retained. I think while he's overpayed he's still the type of veteran centerman the avs would like to have to mentor the kids. Obviously he'd only be a complementary piece, but added to say Mete, plus a forward prospect, plus a pick, he'd be a good add that I think Sakic would value.

You can't retain more than 50%

 

[WannabeFinn]

Man, just get the guy to Columbus already.

 

[boredmale]

personally, i dont think the islanders should offer even one first round pick for duchene. the islanders have 2 first round picks in 18, i would be more than happy if they were both traded to florida for vincent trocheck, and i would be extremely pissed off if either of them were traded to colorado for matt duchene.

Islanders need top end talent not very good 2nd line talent. Maybe Duchene year last year was a sign of things to come but simple fact is Duchene has scored more points(or at least PPG in the strike season) in 6 of his 8 years in the NHL then Trochek has done in his best season.

Beyond that Duchene also fills another need for the team as face off specialist

If Islanders don't have what Sakic wants, then i would be more then happy with Trocheck(not that I see Florida trading him) but if Sakic is looking for best offer available and is willing to take a package of picks ad prospects Islanders should be all in