Rumor: Marleau for Brad Marchand

[LadyStanley]

http://www.xnsports.com/2014/06/12/marchand-marleau-nhl-trade-rumors/

Sharks definitely getting a lot of attention in the rumor department.

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[TomasHertlsRooster]

Why can't it be Pavelski

 

[Coy]

Why can't it be Pavelski

Because somehow DW still thinks he's a young piece for our rebuild. If we are trading Joe & Patty we might as well trade Pavs as well.

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

Because somehow DW still thinks he's a young piece for our rebuild. If we are trading Joe & Patty we might as well trade Pavs as well.

I'm not gonna de-rail the thread by getting into Pavelski vs Marleau/Thornton like I always do. But Marchand is basically a similar player to Marleau, just younger and smaller and not quite as good. I would love to have him but I feel that there are other players I would rather trade for him than Marleau.

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Wow...seriously?

 

[JayP812]

He'd be okay I guess but I want Krug. If we can find a way to add him to the deal, I'd be fine with it even though Marleau staying would be ideal.

 

[Led Zappa]

 

[Juxtaposer]

I'd rather have Krug than Boychuck but if a 35 year old Marleau can get Marchand in return that would be a coup. And I hate Marchand.

 

[Clarkington III]

It's not Pavelski bc of C depth and Yandle

I think Marleau is the first cog in the Thornton trade wheel.

Goodbye Stuart wherever you go too.

See you Niemi.

It's happening....

 

[Clarkington III]

I'd rather have Krug than Boychuck but if a 35 year old Marleau can get Marchand in return that would be a coup. And I hate Marchand.

Marchand + Krug for Marleau + ?

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Why can't it be Pavelski

Because Pavelski is more valuable given his age and ability.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Much rather have Krug. Sharks need to get a dominant D-man...

 

[Grave]

Much rather have Krug. Sharks need to get a dominant D-man...

Then why would they want Krug?

 

[matt trick]

Give me Hamilton or give me death!

That said Marchand+Boychuk is actually are pretty decent deal. The fact that the stars get Seguin for Eriksson, and we would get Marchand for Marleau (who I feel is a better player), kind of sucks however.

 

[Swervin81]

Marchand + Krug for Marleau + ???

I'm more than willing to do that. I don't think Boychuk is necessary since he's an RHD and we already have 3 of them. Yeah, I know Braun can play the left side, I'd just rather he stay on the right.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Because Pavelski is more valuable given his age and ability.

We don't really have anything in there or anywhere that proves this statement to be true.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

Much rather have Krug. Sharks need to get a dominant D-man...

Krug isn't dominant.

 

[Gilligans Island]

Take it for what it's worth:

Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli told WEEI.com Friday morning that he has no plans to trade forward Brad Marchand. He also refuted a rumor from Thursday that the team was discussing a trade of the pesky forward for Sharks veteran Patrick Marleau.

“I have had no discussions for Marchand and I have no plans to trade him,†Chiarelli said. “I don't make it a practice to respond to reports in the social media but occasionally it is necessary.â€

http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comm...archand?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

[bearcountry17]

Krug isn't dominant.

He's probably one of the most offensively potent dman in the league. 3rd in goals(14) and 24th in points only playing 17:30 minutes a night is incredible production for a rookie. the closest player in ice time is Shattenkirk at 20:30 and he only put up 6 more points than him. Most players above him are playing 5+ more minutes a night. You probably couldn't ask for a better replacement for Boyle.

He also just led the Bruins in playoff scoring(2-8-10 in 12games)and is most likely set to make a pretty low cap hit on a bridge deal so I doubt he's available anyway.

 

[FeedingFrenzy]

http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comm...archand?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter[/QUOTE]



Quote:

Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli told WEEI.com Friday morning that he has no plans to trade forward Brad Marchand. He also refuted a rumor from Thursday that the team was discussing a trade of the pesky forward for Sharks veteran Patrick Marleau.

“I have had no discussions for Marchand and I have no plans to trade him,†Chiarelli said. “I don't make it a practice to respond to reports in the social media but occasionally it is necessary.â€



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[Gene Parmesan]

He's probably one of the most offensively potent dman in the league. 3rd in goals(14) and 24th in points only playing 17:30 minutes a night is incredible production for a rookie. the closest player in ice time is Shattenkirk at 20:30 and he only put up 6 more points than him. Most players above him are playing 5+ more minutes a night. You probably couldn't ask for a better replacement for Boyle.

He also just led the Bruins in playoff scoring(2-8-10 in 12games)and is most likely set to make a pretty low cap hit on a bridge deal so I doubt he's available anyway.

Then there is that other end of the ice where he is kind of a disaster. He's not coming to San Jose anyway so its a moot point.

 

[SnarkAttack]

Because Pavelski is more valuable given his age and ability.

I'm not sure I'd value Pavelski over Marleau. Marleau is 35, but he plays a style that is conducive to staying healthy. Great skater, strong, not a whole lot of contact. He seems like a player who could go on for a while at a high level. Even if he slows down quite a bit he's still an above average skater with a high hockey IQ.

Pavelski is my favorite Shark. He's younger, but with a body that scares me more as time goes on. He is slow, and not very big, but does all of the hard-nosed things. If he slows down all he will have is his shot and hockey IQ, but there's not many really good players that lack both size and speed. Pavs is one of them, but I fear if he slows down a little his value will drastically change.

I really think that Marleau may have as many good years left in him as Pavelski, which is why I'd prefer to move Pavelski from a value standpoint.

 

[YoungSinatra]

Thought it was getting interesting then the rumor is killed dead

 

[spintheblackcircle]

We don't really have anything in there or anywhere that proves this statement to be true.

Last three years:

Marleau 80 goals 85 assists +8
Pavelski 88 goals 83 assists +43

The basic stats say, at best, it's even. At best.

Add in the fact he is 5 years younger and more likely to keep up that pace and he's locked up for $667,000 less and for two additional years, it's pretty basic to figure he has more value in a trade.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Last three years:

Marleau 80 goals 85 assists +8
Pavelski 88 goals 83 assists +43

The basic stats say, at best, it's even. At best.

Add in the fact he is 5 years younger and more likely to keep up that pace and he's locked up for $667,000 less and for two additional years, it's pretty basic to figure he has more value in a trade.

That's not basic...that's just lazy. Pavs and Marleau don't have the same roles and they don't face the same competition quality nor have the same teammates. Pavs has been sheltered in comparison to Marleau. And that's before getting into who is going to be a better fit to other teams possibly trading for him. Marleau can fit onto other teams based on his skill set better than Pavelski can. GM's aren't going to differentiate the two based on six points and +/-.